Scottysabres Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Hey, look at the bright side. He's projected back before the trade deadline ;) Quote
Drunkard Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 I'll do it. But the Sabres players have to watch. You're a bigger fan than I am. I wouldn't subject myself to that for these bums. Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Bogo out with BV again..... If you don't know it, Google it Quote
Kruppstahl Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 This stems from a collision with Kane in practice, right? That's kind of funny. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 It's not funny but it's kinda funny. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 It's not so much hating on him as it is hating on the situation the Sabres find themselves in wherein a guy that is expected to be solidly in the 2nd pairing (on a team w/ nobody showing they are "true" top pairing guys) is knowingly, heading into any particular season, going to miss an absolute bare minimum of 20 games forcing guys that should be 6/7's into that 2nd pairing role for likely 1/3 of a season. You can make do & even thrive w/ 6 2nd pairing guys. You can't get by for long w/ 2-3 3's & a bunch of 6/7's. Thing is, Bogo isn't even a solid 2nd pair when he does play. Dude is a 3rd pairing defenseman irrespective of injury status. It's not funny but it's kinda funny. If we were in a playoff spot, it wouldn't be funny. But now? Definitely funny. Quote
Thorner Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Is there a more injury-prone player? Myers, maybe? Their games played since the trade is pretty similar, but I’d still say Bogosian. Hasn’t played more than 64 games in a season as a Sabre, and has only topped 71 games once in his entire career. Quote
Taro T Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Thing is, Bogo isn't even a solid 2nd pair when he does play. Dude is a 3rd pairing defenseman irrespective of injury status. If we were in a playoff spot, it wouldn't be funny. But now? Definitely funny. So is McCabe typically. But when their "wonder twin powers activate" they are both legit 3/4's. Of course, that's probably why the coach seperates them so often. Something, something, pretty sure Richer wore B&G. :p Quote
Tondas Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Actually, BOGO has set this up well. Since we all know his on-ice time is at best 25% of a season, the Sabres can LTIR him for 75% of his remaining 2 years . That means out of the $10 mil that is owed to BOGO (salary cap-wise) for the next 2 years, the Sabres are on the hook for only $2.5 mil. Build it in to the budget and and get an available d-man for $7.5 mil for the next 2 years. Quote
Taro T Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Actually, BOGO has set this up well. Since we all know his on-ice time is at best 25% of a season, the Sabres can LTIR him for 75% of his remaining 2 years . That means out of the $10 mil that is owed to BOGO (salary cap-wise) for the next 2 years, the Sabres are on the hook for only $2.5 mil. Build it in to the budget and and get an available d-man for $7.5 mil for the next 2 years. Actually, unless they cut or trade him, they're on the hook for every penny (w/ the understanding that depending on total leaguewide player salary that will be adjusted a few denarii). IF (who are we kidding, WHEN) he's on LTIR, the Sabres can more or less replace his salary, but they can't do it preemptively. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Thing is, Bogo isn't even a solid 2nd pair when he does play. Dude is a 3rd pairing defenseman irrespective of injury status. If we were in a playoff spot, it wouldn't be funny. But now? Definitely funny. The f##ks a playoff spot? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Might as well shut him down for the season. Put him on LTIR to give us more cap for the deadline and give Antipin a chance to play everyday to see if he can become an effective NHL D. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Matthew BovéVerified account @Matt_Bove 5s5 seconds ago More In his three full seasons with the #Sabres Bogosian has played: 2015-2016: 64 games 2016-2017: 56 games 2017-2018: 18 games He's under contract for two more years with a $5.1M cap hit. Sabres don't have many options. Quote
Eleven Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Matthew BovéVerified account @Matt_Bove 5s5 seconds agoMore In his three full seasons with the #Sabres Bogosian has played: 2015-2016: 64 games 2016-2017: 56 games 2017-2018: 18 games He's under contract for two more years with a $5.1M cap hit. Sabres don't have many options. Can they put him on LTIR through 2020? Quote
darksabre Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Buy out and move on I don't think that's an option. Their best bet would be to waive him and hope some kid from Rochester can fill the spot on an ELC. Basically the same treatment as Moulson. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Can they put him on LTIR through 2020? Only if we are the Leafs Quote
Iron Crotch Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Always injured, yes, but the guy isn't a very good player. He doesn't help the team when he is in the lineup. He isn't a difference maker. JBot needs to blow up our defense Corp and start over again. Quote
Huckleberry Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) Always injured, yes, but the guy isn't a very good player. He doesn't help the team when he is in the lineup. He isn't a difference maker. JBot needs to blow up our defense Corp and start over again. I'd keep Risto - Scandella - McCabe if we are lucky we can add Dhalin. Dhalin - Scandella - Risto McCabe - Guhle Edited January 11, 2018 by blåbär Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 I'd keep Risto - Scandella - McCabe if we are lucky we can add Dhalin. Dhalin - Scandella - Risto McCabe - Guhle and we can pray Antipin keeps developing. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 I'd keep Risto - Scandella - McCabe if we are lucky we can add Dhalin. Dhalin - Scandella - Risto McCabe - Guhle Dahlin is exactly what this team needs. But, as it stands we only have a 12.5% chance of getting him. Thankfully, there should be several nice defense prospects available depending on where we draft. http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Dahlin is exactly what this team needs. But, as it stands we only have a 12.5% chance of getting him. Thankfully, there should be several nice defense prospects available depending on where we draft. http://www.tankathon.com/nhl/pick_odds If we draft correctly, we can take BPA in the first 1st and still get a quality defender at 33rd overall. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Do you guys really think that Dhalin will be a top pairing guy as a rookie? I don't. He is a great player and will very likely be a star in the NHL, but not a top pairing guy from the outset. Although, he is likely to be drafted by a terrible team and will end up being a top pairing guy on that team. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 11, 2018 Report Posted January 11, 2018 Do you guys really think that Dhalin will be a top pairing guy as a rookie? I don't. He is a great player and will very likely be a star in the NHL, but not a top pairing guy from the outset. Although, he is likely to be drafted by a terrible team and will end up being a top pairing guy on that team. He shouldn't be in his rookie year. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 11, 2018 Author Report Posted January 11, 2018 If we draft correctly, we can take BPA in the first 1st and still get a quality defender at 33rd overall. Acquiring an extra first would be key as well. 3 picks in the Top 33 would put this team's prospect pool on the right track Quote
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