Evander Kane: Buffalo's best player?

[WildCard]

What single thing about Kane makes you believe he is conducive to a winning team then? 

[Thorner]

What single thing about Kane makes you believe he is conducive to a winning team then?

 

He scores a lot of goals.

[erickompositör72]

What single thing about Kane makes you believe he is conducive to a winning team then? 

 

You will believe it, too, when a winning team gives up some assets to acquire him

[Taro T]

What single thing about Kane makes you believe he is conducive to a winning team then?

 

His being a true power forward that can score goals.

[darksabre]

You will believe it, too, when a winning team gives up some assets to acquire him

Some winning team is going to do that. And their fans will spend the off-season fighting about whether or not they gave up too much.

[Thorner]

Some winning team is going to do that. And their fans will spend the off-season fighting about whether or not they gave up too much.

Yup.

 

Such is the case with almost all "rentals". Unless they actually win the Cup.

[GASabresIUFAN]

There is no question that Kane has been our most consistent player this season. Jack is still the best player. Lehner is next on the list.

 

The questions on Kane haven’t changed.

1) Does he want to be here?

2) Even if Kane wants to be here, does he fit Jbot’s rebuild plan?

3) Even if the feeling is mutual, how much for how long and does it fit in Jbot’s cap structure for the Sabres?

 

Failing any of these 3 questions means that Jbot trades him.

[WildCard]

He scores a lot of goals.

So does/do a lot of players that never win anything

 

You will believe it, too, when a winning team gives up some assets to acquire him

Teams are stupid. 

 

His being a true power forward that can score goals.

Lots of players can score goals

[Taro T]

So does/do a lot of players that never win anything

 

 

Teams are stupid. 

 

 

Lots of players can score goals

Name 1 Sabre not given the name Evander or John. Go on, I triple dog dare you!

[erickompositör72]

So does/do a lot of players that never win anything

 

So his ceiling is, like, Ovechkin

 

What a shame

[WildCard]

Name 1 Sabre not given the name Evander or John. Go on, I triple dog dare you!

Vanek back when we thought we shouldn't have let him go  :P

So his ceiling is, like, Ovechkin

 

What a shame

That's Laine.

 

I'd rather have a winning team than a pure goal scorer

Edited December 23, 2017 by Jokertecken

[Taro T]

Vanek back when we thought we shouldn't have let him go  :P

 

That's Laine.

 

I'd rather have a winning team than a pure goal scorer

Vanek is not a Sabre.

 

Knew you couldn't do it! :p

[darksabre]

Name 1 Sabre not given the name Evander or John. Go on, I triple dog dare you!

Just because no one else on this team is any good doesn't make Evander Kane more valuable. It's not like his production here is a revelation. He had plenty of good seasons for Atlantapeg and that didn't stop them from wanting to move on from him.

[Taro T]

Just because no one else on this team is any good doesn't make Evander Kane more valuable. It's not like his production here is a revelation. He had plenty of good seasons for Atlantapeg and that didn't stop them from wanting to move on from him.

Evander Kane is a valuable & useful player.

 

That he didn't fit in in Winnipeg has not been an issue in Buffalo.

 

And change "Atlantapeg" to Edmonton & your statement could easily be describing Gretzky or Messier. ;)

[Thorner]

Just because no one else on this team is any good doesn't make Evander Kane more valuable. It's not like his production here is a revelation. He had plenty of good seasons for Atlantapeg and that didn't stop them from wanting to move on from him.

But he's good relative to the rest of the league, not just the Sabres.

 

I'm not going to blame him for losing teams in Winnipeg. Scoring goals was never their issue. It was always about porous defence and bad goaltending.

 

And he's not the issue, here. To say he can't be conductive to winning based on those two situations is a stretch, at best.

 

And it's not his fault he's being paired with Eichel. We need to expect it of our coach that he knows how to properly utilize him.

 

As with any player.

[TrueBlueGED]

I'm not about to blame Kane for not being on winning teams. I do, however, feel he's a bit of an awkward fit as a core piece given the shortcomings of his game. He remains a player I'd like to keep. I just don't want to keep him at all cost.

[Taro T]

I'm not about to blame Kane for not being on winning teams. I do, however, feel he's a bit of an awkward fit as a core piece given the shortcomings of his game. He remains a player I'd like to keep. I just don't want to keep him at all cost.

Has anyone advocated for that?

[Thorner]

I'm not about to blame Kane for not being on winning teams. I do, however, feel he's a bit of an awkward fit as a core piece given the shortcomings of his game. He remains a player I'd like to keep. I just don't want to keep him at all cost.

Ya, I wouldn't want to make him the second highest paid player on a team. And that's what I think he'll command. And that's as much about the position he plays than anything else.

[TrueBlueGED]

Has anyone advocated for that?

Those willing to go 7 years $7.5M per are, in my valuation, keeping him at all costs. YMMV.

Ya, I wouldn't want to make him the second highest paid player on a team. And that's what I think he'll command. And that's as much about the position he plays than anything else.

This is essentially my view as well. I suspect that he'll simply command more than I'm willing to pay. I'd be willing to flex some upwards if we could offload one of our albatrosses in Okposo or Bogosian.

[Thorner]

Those willing to go 7 years $7.5M per are, in my valuation, keeping him at all costs. YMMV.

 

This is essentially my view as well. I suspect that he'll simply command more than I'm willing to pay. I'd be willing to flex some upwards if we could offload one of our albatrosses in Okposo or Bogosian.

Exactly.

[Taro T]

Those willing to go 7 years $7.5M per are, in my valuation, keeping him at all costs. YMMV.

 

This is essentially my view as well. I suspect that he'll simply command more than I'm willing to pay. I'd be willing to flex some upwards if we could offload one of our albatrosses in Okposo or Bogosian.

Fair enough.

[LGR4GM]

Would you trade Okposo if Evander agreed to an extension?

[darksabre]

Would you trade Okposo if Evander agreed to an extension?

I would.

[LGR4GM]

I would.

What's he worth?

[darksabre]

What's he worth?

Dunno. I'll take prospects. I like Okposo but this team needs speed.