Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 or it may be that other teams love he is locked up long term and is on a dismal Sabres team and all he needs is a change of scenery ,to a team with teammates who actually have a heart That being said, we'd be utterly mad to trade Jack. Moulson being waived is the right move time to move on from players like Moulson and reward players who are on the cusp of being moved up permanently. You sure? Quebec/Colorado traded Lindros and got two Cups out of the deal. Quote
WildCard Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 but if he retires doesn't he lose all that money? ...no? I wanna say no Quote
inkman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 You sure? Quebec/Colorado traded Lindros and got two Cups out of the deal. Right. So who's our Forsberg? Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 We would literally have had to bribe another team with draft picks to take his contract. It's simply incredible how bad he got almost overnight. I think if we were going to re-do the tank and I was the GM, I would only have signed guys to short deals. Journeymen and some guys on the way out. There's like...no point in signing guys to any substantial deals when you're trying to reset. A tank should be as much about re-setting the team's cap as it is the roster. Oh, you mean like Pouliot, Nolan, Josefson, Antipin, Lehner.....? Quote
Neo Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 If he retires he doesn't get paid. I hope he chooses to do that because then I think we'd get out of his cap hit, but I expect him to go to Rochester and be the rich guy who pays for team dinners. That was funny. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 Oh, you mean like Pouliot, Nolan, Josefson, Antipin, Lehner.....? I certainly have more faith right now in Jbots than I do in what GMTM did Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 Right. So who's our Forsberg? You don't know until you trade Jack. Forsberg came from the Lindros trade. Quote
MattPie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 but if he retires doesn't he lose all that money? I think the Sabres don't have to pay Moulson if he retires or otherwise refuses to play wherever the Sabres send him. Retirement + KHL might be worth it. It looks like he gets paid $3M in actual dollars next year, so playing somewhere else might be worth it he really wants to play and/or the new team pays him that much. Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 I certainly have more faith right now in Jbots than I do in what GMTM did That was kind of my point. Even the Pommer/Scandella trade... you have a veteran forward for 2 years and a steady top-4 Dman for 3 years. You know Pominville is a bit overvalued but he's still a steady secondary producer. Quote
North Buffalo Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 So rumor Lehner and Erod for Nurse, not sure how credible: https://twitter.com/displacedsabres/status/937714550295670785 Quote
Sabel79 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 So rumor Lehner and Erod for Nurse, not sure how credible: https://twitter.com/displacedsabres/status/937714550295670785 I'd do that in half a second. Which means it's not happening. Then again, this is Chiarelli we're talking about... Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 So rumor Lehner and Erod for Nurse, not sure how credible: https://twitter.com/displacedsabres/status/937714550295670785 The tweet says Baptiste, not ERod. Quote
WildCard Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 So rumor Lehner and Erod for Nurse, not sure how credible: https://twitter.com/displacedsabres/status/937714550295670785 That's not a rumor. That's just some dude throwing out ideas Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 That's not a rumor. That's just some dude throwing out ideas Yeah... the only "rumor" part of it is Koziol stating that Edmonton is in the market for a goalie. Quote
darksabre Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 That's not a rumor. That's just some dude throwing out ideas Really looking forward to all the Twitter "rumors" Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 At times like these I am very happy that I got rid of Twitter. Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 At times like these I am very happy that I got rid of Twitter. nah, twitter is great John VoglVerified account @BuffNewsVogl 1h1 hour agoMore “Get your sh$t together.” - Kyle Okposo on the message waiving Matt Moulson sends to the Sabres’ dressing room. Quote
Sabel79 Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 nah, twitter is great John VoglVerified account @BuffNewsVogl 1h1 hour agoMore “Get your sh$t together.” - Kyle Okposo on the message waiving Matt Moulson sends to the Sabres’ dressing room. Now that is stone cold right there from KO... Quote
nfreeman Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 There is NFW that Moulson retires and walks away from the last $4MM he'll ever earn as a pro hockey player. While I agree that this is a step in the right direction, it's the babiest of baby steps IMHO. Everyone knows that Moulson stinks, is overpaid and no one wants him. If they really want to get the attention of the group of losers they've collected, and to start excising the rotten core, they'll need to trade someone like Reino or ROR. Quote
WildCard Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 nah, twitter is great John VoglVerified account @BuffNewsVogl 1h1 hour agoMore “Get your sh$t together.” - Kyle Okposo on the message waiving Matt Moulson sends to the Sabres’ dressing room. @shannshep4re Jack Eichel is not in a good mood at all. Just slammed his stick into the glass after a power play drill. Has spent the entire practice looking pissed and shaking his head Quote
darksabre Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 nah, twitter is great John VoglVerified account @BuffNewsVogl 1h1 hour ago Wonder More “Get your sh$t together.” - Kyle Okposo on the message waiving Matt Moulson sends to the Sabres’ dressing room. I wonder who that's directed at? *cough* Jack *cough* Quote
Doohicksie Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 Now that is stone ###### cold right there from KO... Maybe he'll be the next to take the C. @shannshep4re Jack Eichel is not in a good mood at all. Just slammed his stick into the glass after a power play drill. Has spent the entire practice looking pissed and shaking his head I bet Jack scores 6 goals in the next 4 games or something. That first one will come and the rest will follow. I think, though, that the answer to Jack's scoring drought is goals by other players, especially the Bottom Six, to take the load of "having to do everything" off Jack. He's feeling the pressure and it's making him hold his stick too tight. Quote
Huckleberry Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 Give Chiareli a chance here Made me laugh :D Quote
LGR4GM Posted December 4, 2017 Report Posted December 4, 2017 Here's the story that quote comes from http://www.buffalohockeybeat.com/waiving-matt-moulson-difficult-sabres/ More thoughts this time from Vogl http://buffalonews.com/2017/12/04/sabres-oreilly-knows-moulson-move-could-be-just-the-start/ Quote
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