Taro T Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 New #Sabres lines at practice: Girgensons-Eichel-Pominville Kane-O'Reilly-Okposo Pouliot-Larsson-Reinhart Griffith-Josefson-Nolan Scandella-Risto Beaulieu-Tennyson McCabe-Gorges Antipin & Moulson skating as a pair as well. Reinhart may not be a third line center, but he is definitely not a third line winger Flip Pommers and Reinhart and let's go So, they finally put Scandella & Ristolainen together but somehow decide Beaulieu & Tennyson isn't a disaster waiting to happen? I get giving Gorges a look - you give up 13 goals in 2 games, something needs to change but Tennyson's indecision combined w/ Beaulieu's issues are not confidence inducing. McCabe to 3rd pairing & Antipin right out of the lineup. Would've kept Jake & Victor together but slid Tennyson or Beaulieu to the bench in the "shakeup" move. Guess they figure McCabe can cover for Gorges lack of speed. Aside: how long before this board's collective head explodes at Reinhart off the PP altogether & taking shifts as a checking W?
WildCard Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 @JourdonLaBarber Phil Housley said Robin Lehner is OK after taking a shot to the mask in practice. Zach Bogosian is not expected to make the trip to San Jose. #Sabres @JourdonLaBarber New units on the power play as well: Unit 1: Eichel-Kane-Pominville-O'Reilly-Ristolainen Unit 2: Griffith-Okposo-Pouliot-Beaulieu-Tennyson
Samson's Flow Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 @JourdonLaBarber Phil Housley said Robin Lehner is OK after taking a shot to the mask in practice. Zach Bogosian is not expected to make the trip to San Jose. #Sabres @JourdonLaBarber New units on the power play as well: Unit 1: Eichel-Kane-Pominville-O'Reilly-Ristolainen Unit 2: Griffith-Okposo-Pouliot-Beaulieu-Tennyson If that PP lineup doesn't scream "No SHG against" I don't know what does. Alarming to me is no Reinhart on either unit and Tennyson on the PP point. Really? Tennyson?! :unsure:
WildCard Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I enjoy those lines Take a look at the new PP then tell me how you feel
darksabre Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I'm not a fan of Antipin in the dog house. I think we need him on the point.
nfreeman Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Reino dropped from the PP and moved to wing? Yikes. Also, Beaulieu still on the PP. Live dangerously.
LTS Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I'm okay with these changes. It's still a feeling out process and I think it's methodical. Moving Reinhart to W allows for some flexibility. I would think that if Okposo can't find some O soon then you might see Reinhart bump up there or even to the top line and then watch Pominville move to ROR's line, etc. Having Reinhart at C required you to then move ROR and a winger to make things work. The D? Gorges has to play now. Gorges is not as BAD as what we've seen. Antipin being out is interesting to me. I'd bet Beaulieu/Tennyson see about 10 minutes of ice time... max. Scandella/Risto - 30 minutes and the McCabe/Gorge - 20 minutes...
StuckinFL Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I don't favor Tennyson over Antipin. Antipin out over Beaulieu is mind boggling to me.
Samson's Flow Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I don't favor Tennyson over Antipin. Me either. I actually think Antipin has been one of the better defenders in our -sandwich defense. Antipin out over Beaulieu is mind boggling to me. exactly.
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I'd bet Beaulieu/Tennyson see about 10 minutes of ice time... max. Scandella/Risto - 30 minutes and the McCabe/Gorge - 20 minutes... Recipe for disaster. I don't favor Tennyson over Antipin. Antipin out over Beaulieu is mind boggling to me. The only reason I can see doing that is if they want to give Antipin up in the press box with a coach to point out positioning to him.
LTS Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Recipe for disaster. The only reason I can see doing that is if they want to give Antipin up in the press box with a coach to point out positioning to him. They already have disaster. Could it get worse? Possibly. But it's hard to say so far that it's not already a disaster.
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 One other thought: Is there another practice tomorrow? Maybe that will be a better indicator of who will play and where for tomorrow night's game. They already have disaster. Could it get worse? Possibly. But it's hard to say so far that it's not already a disaster. Burning out Risto and Scandella early by playing them 30 minutes a game is the disaster I was thinking of. They've had a couple bad games. Burn out Risto and Scandella and we'll be guaranteed a bad season defensively.
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 11, 2017 Author Report Posted October 11, 2017 Phil, I have an idea about the PP. Call the guy who coached it last season and re-hire him.
Randall Flagg Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Take a look at the new PP then tell me how you feel The PP lines I 'like' are the ones that gave up 4 SHG in the first 3 games, so I'm not going to get on Phil for changing them. I think Larsson is more effective at C than he is at W, so I like that move. If we go Sam-to-wing, I'd stack two lines and do Kane - ROR - Reinhart Girgensons - Eichel - Okposo Griffith - Larsson - Pominville the rest
Weave Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 The PP lines I 'like' are the ones that gave up 4 SHG in the first 3 games, so I'm not going to get on Phil for changing them. I think Larsson is more effective at C than he is at W, so I like that move. If we go Sam-to-wing, I'd stack two lines and do Kane - ROR - Reinhart Girgensons - Eichel - Okposo Griffith - Larsson - Pominville the rest . This is pretty mich what I have been advocating all along.
Drunkard Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Recipe for disaster. The only reason I can see doing that is if they want to give Antipin up in the press box with a coach to point out positioning to him. If they want him to learn by watching they should play another game on the tv (Minnesota, Anaheim, Nashville, etc.) in the press box. He's not going to learn how to play the right way watching our guys.
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Interesting stat: In the first three games, only 6 Sabres (5 forwards and Risto) have recorded at least one point. The players with the most points and the best +/- are Kane and Pommer. If you're trying to stack two lines, Pomminstein doesn't go on the 3rd line.
Randall Flagg Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 . This is pretty mich what I have been advocating all along. Only we went the roundabout way to get there - we haven't scored alot but we haven't been shutout either, however, lines need to be changed because of 70 goals against in the first 9 periods :lol:
Doohicksie Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 If they want him to learn by watching they should play another game on the tv (Minnesota, Anaheim, Nashville, etc.) in the press box. He's not going to learn how to play the right way watching our guys. I see your point, but I also think bad examples can be good teaching moments.
Weave Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Interesting stat: In the first three games, only 6 Sabres (5 forwards and Risto) have recorded at least one point. The players with the most points and the best +/- are Kane and Pommer. If you're trying to stack two lines, Pomminstein doesn't go on the 3rd line. Agreed. I'd put Pommer on his off wing and puy Z on the 3rd line. Pominville often switched wing with Vanek. He did fine.
Drunkard Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 I see your point, but I also think bad examples can be good teaching moments. Someone just needs to record an audio tape saying "Don't do that" in Russian 1,000 times then and just play it on a loop for him while the game is going on then.
Randall Flagg Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Agreed. I'd put Pommer on his off wing and puy Z on the 3rd line. Pominville often switched wing with Vanek. He did fine. I'd go for this too, though I'd worry a little about the footspeed of each guy. I like to have one guy who skates very well with those two (well, fast - Zem's edges are scary) Though Pominville and Okposo are smart enough that it probably wouldn't be a big deal.
darksabre Posted October 11, 2017 Report Posted October 11, 2017 Agreed. I'd put Pommer on his off wing and puy Z on the 3rd line. Pominville often switched wing with Vanek. He did fine. I'm fine with that. I want Okposo with Eichel so that gets me there.
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