Sabres Prospects 2017-2018

[Scottysabres]

Oloffson and Asplund I never get to see save the occasional highlight videos.

 

If these 2 come over next season, combined with Pu, who else can we see in Rochester?

[LGR4GM]

Oloffson and Asplund I never get to see save the occasional highlight videos.

 

If these 2 come over next season, combined with Pu, who else can we see in Rochester?

I suppose that Casey Mittelstadt could be placed in Rochester next year. Vasily Glotov could make it. Vojtech Budik could. Brandon Hagel could. 

 

I would guess Nyberg and Fitzgerald stay at college although theoretically Fitzgerald could be singed, he's in his 3rd year. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

I suppose that Casey Mittelstadt could be placed in Rochester next year. Vasily Glotov could make it. Vojtech Budik could. Brandon Hagel could. 

 

I would guess Nyberg and Fitzgerald stay at college although theoretically Fitzgerald could be singed, he's in his 3rd year.

 

The bottom of the 2014 class, Brown, Willman and Olofsson are all eligible to be signed. If I had to guess Willman and Olofsson will be signed.

 

Fitzgerald and Borgen should also be signed. Fitz was 19 when drafted. We have no D we drafted in Roch other then Guhle. It would be nice to have one or two.

 

Glotov, Pu Budik and Hagel are all eligible to be signed. Pu is actually completing his 4th CHL season. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like Budik and Hagel are signed then returned to Jrs for an overage season.

[Thorner]

The bottom of the 2014 class, Brown, Willman and Olofsson are all eligible to be signed. If I had to guess Willman and Olofsson will be signed.

Fitzgerald and Borgen should also be signed. Fitz was 19 when drafted. We have no D we drafted in Roch other then Guhle. It would be nice to have one or two.

Glotov, Pu Budik and Hagel are all eligible to be signed. Pu is actually completing his 4th CHL season. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone like Budik and Hagel are signed then returned to Jrs for an overage season.

Pu signed.

[Crusader1969]

Just to update totals:

Olofsson 6g, 3a, 9pts in 14 games (SHL)

Asplund 3g, 6a, 9pts in 15games (SHL)

Cliff Pu 3g, 7a, 10pts in 14games (OHL)

Mittelstadt 2g, 5a, 7pts in 7games (NCAA)

Just checking to see what Dahlin today and I noticed Olofsson scored on the PP again. Is he a 1 trick pony (pp specialist) or can he find space to use his shot 5v5?

[LGR4GM]

No idea. Hard to tell what will happen when he switches ice surfaces. Def has bust potential

Just checking to see what Dahlin today and I noticed Olofsson scored on the PP again. Is he a 1 trick pony (pp specialist) or can he find space to use his shot 5v5?

[LGR4GM]

Olofsson interview: really starts 2:17in

Edited November 6, 2017 by LGR4GM

[Pokey Jones]

So much depends on Nylander actually amounting to something doesn't it? If he and someone else (maybe Mittlestadt) both come in next year and play well you suddenly have a young fast scoring line up front and then all the other lines get better as players bump down. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

That’s now rebuilds are supposed to work. (Add Guhle as well).

[Thorner]

That’s now rebuilds are supposed to work. (Add Guhle as well).

If we are counting on Mittelstadt to replace Kane, we are already starting off worse next season. Maybe for an indefinite amount of time.

[Randall Flagg]

If we are counting on Mittelstadt to replace Kane, we are already starting off worse next season. Maybe for an indefinite amount of time.

So you're saying that Mittelstadt won't be 2nd in the league at even strength scoring over a 65+ game stretch right away? Darnit, I was assuming that would happen 

Edited November 10, 2017 by Randall Flagg

[Thorner]

So you're saying that Mittelstadt won't be 2nd in the league at even strength scoring over a 65+ game stretch right away? Darnit, I was assuming that would happen

 

:lol:

 

I'm not saying you were, I just think people in general probably should pump the breaks on Mittelstadt a bit. We do this with every prospect, ever. There's a rush to replace those producing, for the grass is greener prospect.

 

So much depends on Nylander actually amounting to something doesn't it? If he and someone else (maybe Mittlestadt) both come in next year and play well you suddenly have a young fast scoring line up front and then all the other lines get better as players bump down.

 

Maybe I should have quoted this post. It's acting like we'll be improved by getting Mittelstadt in there on a top line next season.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Thorny

[Randall Flagg]

:lol:

 

I'm not saying you were, I just think people in general probably should pump the breaks on Mittelstadt a bit. We do this with every prospect, ever. There's a rush to replace those producing, for the grass is greener prospect.

 

 

Maybe I should have quoted this post. It's acting like we'll be improved by getting Mittelstadt in there on a top line next season.

Indeed - not here, but I've read people saying he's "our Keller". Through a third of the NCAA season he's producing at 62% the rate Clayton did last season. I still like the kid and I guess I'm expecting an NHLer out of him, but who knows how good he will be or if he will even be a noteworthy piece of a good team.

[rakish]

Indeed - not here, but I've read people saying he's "our Keller". Through a third of the NCAA season he's producing at 62% the rate Clayton did last season. I still like the kid and I guess I'm expecting an NHLer out of him, but who knows how good he will be or if he will even be a noteworthy piece of a good team.

 

Not only that, during his NCAA year, Keller is 8 months younger than Mittelstadt's NCAA year, which is huge at that age. Keller isn't far from Eichel, Mittelstadt's in an entire different group of prospects.

[Thorner]

Not only that, during his NCAA year, Keller is 8 months younger than Mittelstadt's NCAA year, which is huge at that age. Keller isn't far from Eichel, Mittelstadt's in an entire different group of prospects.

And right now, in the NHL, Keller is the better player than Eichel so far this season. Keller looks incredible. I sort of "ya, ya" 'd all the Keller love around here pre 2016 draft, but boy was this place right.

 

He went ONE pick before Nylander. One.

[Brawndo]

Nylander is practicing with the Amerks this AM.

 

Full contact

[WildCard]

Any word on what was ever wrong with him in the first place? He's been out around 2 months

[Huckleberry]

So much depends on Nylander actually amounting to something doesn't it? If he and someone else (maybe Mittlestadt) both come in next year and play well you suddenly have a young fast scoring line up front and then all the other lines get better as players bump down. 

 

That is what happened in Toronto last year , they got Bozak and Kadri down a line.

[GASabresIUFAN]

That is what happened in Toronto last year , they got Bozak and Kadri down a line.

Right, getting players slotted right is almost more important then “replacing Kane’s” production. Having Nylander, Marner and Matthews step into the lineup allowed Babcock to move Kadri to 3rd line duty with decent wingers and he blossomed.

 

Assuming Nylander and Mittelstadt can step in next season (or the year after), now our forward talent has some real talent depth. A top 6 of Jack, ROR, Sam, Okposo, Nylander, and Mittelstadt has real talent and a good mix of vets in their prime with youngs kids and young vets. Now if Asplund can also make the jump and Pu also develops quickly, we’ll really have something.

[Thorner]

Right, getting players slotted right is almost more important then “replacing Kane’s” production. Having Nylander, Marner and Matthews step into the lineup allowed Babcock to move Kadri to 3rd line duty with decent wingers and he blossomed.

Assuming Nylander and Mittelstadt can step in next season (or the year after), now our forward talent has some real talent depth. A top 6 of Jack, ROR, Sam, Okposo, Nylander, and Mittelstadt has real talent and a good mix of vets in their prime with youngs kids and young vets. Now if Asplund can also make the jump and Pu also develops quickly, we’ll really have something.

Maybe after a few years of development, if Nylander and Mittelstadt truly excel. Next year, that's the exact same top 6 we have this year, with a downgrade of Kane to Mittelstadt likely as far as next year is concerned. Hopefully balanced out by a marginal upgrade of Nylander over Pouliot, but the overall projection of that top 6 next year is the same as this year's or worse.

 

Switching Kane and Pouliot for Mittelstadt and Nylander isn't going to provide an upgrade in the immediate future.

Edited November 14, 2017 by Thorny

[Huckleberry]

Can't see Mittelstadt being ready next year, he won't be physical ready by next year.   Nylander might happen.

[Crusader1969]

Can't see Mittelstadt being ready next year, he won't be physical ready by next year.   Nylander might happen.[/quote

 

Is this because of the pull-up thing?

[Huckleberry]

Can't see Mittelstadt being ready next year, he won't be physical ready by next year.   Nylander might happen.[/quote

 

Is this because of the pull-up thing?

 

Nope, his body just needs to get stronger on so many levels, can't see it happening with one year in college.  Might be wrong but doubt that.

[GASabresIUFAN]

Jack was physically ready after one year of college.  Minn lists Casey at 6'0 201.  Not exactly small and I assume, based on recent stories that he is in the weight room a great deal already.  Please also note, I said next season or the year after.  

 

I have zero problem if Casey spends a second year in college or goes to the AHL.  I want Jbot to do it right Nylander, Casey, Pu and Asplund because that is the only way this rebuild works long term.

Edited November 14, 2017 by GASabresIUFAN

[bunomatic]

If Nylander doesn't rip it up in the A.H.L. when he gets back in I can't see him adding anything that'll change our fortunes with respect to the big club next year. My guess is he's a couple years away from making an impact if ever.