Taro T Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 Understood. I remember both of those as being the highlights of a fairly barren Sabres era. The Mogilny story is absolutely amazing. It truly is. Quote
Doohicksie Posted January 17, 2018 Author Report Posted January 17, 2018 ....and all this has nothing to do with the current prospect pool. Quote
Taro T Posted January 17, 2018 Report Posted January 17, 2018 ....and all this has nothing to do with the current prospect pool. Nor does this. ^ :p Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 Goal and assist for Mittelstadt today. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 Goal and assist for Mittelstadt today. a sign of an uplift in production coming from confidence gained at the WJC? Quote
calti Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 Here is the video https://twitter.com/minnesotaonbtn/status/953722667651055616 cant believe he scored so many in a row Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 a sign of an uplift in production coming from confidence gained at the WJC?Hopefully. Casey was always going to have to elevate his game a lot because he spent half a season playing high school hockey. It's one reason why I want him starting I Rochester Quote
pi2000 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 His Minny team isn't very good, which I think might entice him to turn pro after one college season. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 It's possible that Minnesota doesn't even get into the field of 16 for the Frozen Four. Last season the Big Ten placed three teams in the 16, the tournament winner and two at large bids. Minnesota was an at large bid last year, but this year are behind Notre Dame, Penn State and Michigan in the standings. Minnesota plays Notre Dame this weekend, followed by Ohio State and Penn State. The Big Ten Tournament will go a long way to determine their future. I believe the best plan would be to have him play some games with the Sabres, start him on Eichel's Wing as he won't be ready to play Center in th NHL yet. Then assign him to The Amerks for some playoff games if the rules allow it. Quote
Weave Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 It's possible that Minnesota doesn't even get into the field of 16 for the Frozen Four. Last season the Big Ten placed three teams in the 16, the tournament winner and two at large bids. Minnesota was an at large bid last year, but this year are behind Notre Dame, Penn State and Michigan in the standings. Minnesota plays Notre Dame this weekend, followed by Ohio State and Penn State. The Big Ten Tournament will go a long way to determine their future. I believe the best plan would be to have him play some games with the Sabres, start him on Eichel's Wing as he won't be ready to play Center in th NHL yet. Then assign him to The Amerks for some playoff games if the rules allow it. If memory serves, there is a given date where he has to be on the Amerks roster to qualify for the playoffs, but I can't imagine it would be any big deal to make that happen. (Assuming he agrees to turn pro of course) Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 21, 2018 Report Posted January 21, 2018 If memory serves, there is a given date where he has to be on the Amerks roster to qualify for the playoffs, but I can't imagine it would be any big deal to make that happen. (Assuming he agrees to turn pro of course) Clear Day rosters were eliminated in 2013 as part of the most recent CBA. https://www.si.com/nhl/home-ice/2013/04/02/new-cba-removes-major-ahl-roster-hurdle-from-nhl-trade-deadline-day Therefore if Mittelstadt is here at the end of the regular season, he can play in the AHL playoffs. The Big Ten Tourney ends 3/17. Regionals are 3/23-3/25. The Frozen Four is in St Paul from 4/5 - 4/7. The Sabres have 4 games in April ending on the 7th. The Amerks have 6 games in April including 3 from 4/11 to 4/14. This is great news if we want to get Casey pro experience even if they win the Frozen Four. Quote
pi2000 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Clear Day rosters were eliminated in 2013 as part of the most recent CBA. https://www.si.com/nhl/home-ice/2013/04/02/new-cba-removes-major-ahl-roster-hurdle-from-nhl-trade-deadline-day Therefore if Mittelstadt is here at the end of the regular season, he can play in the AHL playoffs. The Big Ten Tourney ends 3/17. Regionals are 3/23-3/25. The Frozen Four is in St Paul from 4/5 - 4/7. The Sabres have 4 games in April ending on the 7th. The Amerks have 6 games in April including 3 from 4/11 to 4/14. This is great news if we want to get Casey pro experience even if they win the Frozen Four. Good chance Minny doesn't even make the tournament. Quote
Taro T Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Good chance Minny doesn't even make the tournament. Yep. They've not been playing well heading into this weekend. Will take seriously upping their play to make it. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Clear Day rosters were eliminated in 2013 as part of the most recent CBA. https://www.si.com/nhl/home-ice/2013/04/02/new-cba-removes-major-ahl-roster-hurdle-from-nhl-trade-deadline-day Therefore if Mittelstadt is here at the end of the regular season, he can play in the AHL playoffs. The Big Ten Tourney ends 3/17. Regionals are 3/23-3/25. The Frozen Four is in St Paul from 4/5 - 4/7. The Sabres have 4 games in April ending on the 7th. The Amerks have 6 games in April including 3 from 4/11 to 4/14. This is great news if we want to get Casey pro experience even if they win the Frozen Four. Would Mittelstadt playing in the AHL playoffs burn a year of his ELC? Or is that only if he gets NHL time? Quote
dudacek Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Would Mittelstadt playing in the AHL playoffs burn a year of his ELC? Or is that only if he gets NHL time? My understanding is that it will not. However, I would imagine a condition of any Middelstadt signing this spring would involve him playing in the NHL immediately to bring him a year closer to free agency - McCabe and Fasching did the same thing. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Would Mittelstadt playing in the AHL playoffs burn a year of his ELC? Or is that only if he gets NHL time? That is a good question. How contracts slide or go into effect is really hard to determine. Most of the time the kids want to get to free agency as soon as possible, so if I where Casey's reps I'd want to lose one year of the ELC if he goes pro. However that doesn't always work in a players favor. Take Sam vs Kane. Kane's first two years in the NHL on his ELC were good. He had 26 and then 43 pts. However he scored 30 in his 3rd season with 27 assists and earned a 5 year 5.25 per season deal. Reinhart on the other hand had 42 and then 47 pts. Now in his third season, he is on pace for 28-30 pts. He isn't going to command a huge contract on his second deal like Kane did. Casey, since he has very limited experience since high school might be best playing on a 3 year ELC and developing like Kane did. That said an ATO for the remainder of 2018 would keep his ELC intact. However, ATOs are only for emergency situations in the NHL, thus the Sabres can't really sign him to an ATO, but Roch can. The Bruins did this witrh McAvoy to preserve his ELC. http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/boston-bruins/clarification-on-boston-bruins-charlie-mcavoy-entry-level-contract-burn-vs-ato-options. However, if Mittelstud signs his ELC and plays one game in the NHL we burn the first year of his ELC according to the article. Quote
rakish Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Would Mittelstadt playing in the AHL playoffs burn a year of his ELC? Or is that only if he gets NHL time? As I understand it, it's not the issue that GM's care about. They want to keep you under 41 games your first season, then you get to UFA a year later (if you are young enough to make a difference) As to your question, I don't think Nylander is burning his ELC playing in Rochester, so I think the answer is no. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Randy Sexton was on ESPN Rochester and was asked about Mittelstadt being a one and done, his reply “it’s a bit premature for one and done, but if he continues to progress as rapidly as he has we will have a conversation with him and his family at the end of the year” Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Randy Sexton was on ESPN Rochester and was asked about Mittelstadt being a one and done, his reply “it’s a bit premature for one and done, but if he continues to progress as rapidly as he has we will have a conversation with him and his family at the end of the year” Translation: He is going to be an Amerk at year's end. Quote
pi2000 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 Randy Sexton was on ESPN Rochester and was asked about Mittelstadt being a one and done, his reply “it’s a bit premature for one and done, but if he continues to progress as rapidly as he has we will have a conversation with him and his family at the end of the year” I think he goes back to school... based on his history. Quote
LGR4GM Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 I think he goes back to school... based on his history.His history? Quote
dudacek Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 His history?The kid is no Auston Matthews. Quote
pi2000 Posted January 22, 2018 Report Posted January 22, 2018 His history? Playing for his high school team instead of USHL. Quote
Thorner Posted January 23, 2018 Report Posted January 23, 2018 As I understand it, it's not the issue that GM's care about. They want to keep you under 41 games your first season, then you get to UFA a year later (if you are young enough to make a difference) As to your question, I don't think Nylander is burning his ELC playing in Rochester, so I think the answer is no. Ya, Nylander’s ELC has now slid the 2 seasons max it is allowed to. If he’s in the AHL next year, it’ll burn a year. Quote
Brawndo Posted January 27, 2018 Report Posted January 27, 2018 Casey is taking on Notre Dame on ESPN 2 Quote
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