Training camp questions: #1 Is Scandella a first-pairing defenceman?

[WildCard]

sounds like a personal thing

I mean, he's got great hands

[MattPie]

I want Antipin on the PP

sounds like a personal thing

 

[sabills]

Not that I'm some great judge of talent or anything, but I was never excited about Kulikov. He was a nothing acquisition to me. Scanner has me much more excited.

[Randall Flagg]

I think in a vacuum Marco is probably a #3, and a #4 on a deep defensive team, though I haven't watched him enough to be sure. 

He also never got the chance to grow to be more than that, behind Suter. So I'm intrigued. He's certainly our second best defender at this point. 

[Samson's Flow]

As others have mentioned, I think it is more than just Scandella, but the infusion of real NHL players means that our defense will be far more balanced this year. We won't need to hide AHL level talent and struggling vets, forcing Risto and McCabe to play half the game. That rising tide should improve every player on defense next year. :thumbsup:

[pi2000]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.   

[WildCard]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.   

I think even on a contender he's a solid 3 

[LGR4GM]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.   

Scandella? 

[bob_sauve28]

As others have mentioned, I think it is more than just Scandella, but the infusion of real NHL players means that our defense will be far more balanced this year. We won't need to hide AHL level talent and struggling vets, forcing Risto and McCabe to play half the game. That rising tide should improve every player on defense next year. :thumbsup:

Good points. We should also have more depth once injuries hit, also.

[pi2000]

Scandella? 

 

Yes, Scandella logged a -15 TRpm last season, which is worse than Kulikov (-10).    Minny had a great team last year, they were a +49 as a team, and Scandella played about 30% of the minutes.    You'd expect him to at least have a positive +/- but he was a -2 (actual +/-).  

 

Does he get tough matchups?  I don't know, but that's not a good season for him considering Ryan Suter logged the toughest minutes and put up +12 TRpm.   

That tells me Scandella is weak defensively.    

Edited August 31, 2017 by pi2000

[dudacek]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.

 

So Ron Hainsey, Trevor van Reimsdyk-level guy?

Yes, Scandella logged a -15 TRpm last season, which is worse than Kulikov (-10).    Minny had a great team last year, they were a +49 as a team, and Scandella played about 30% of the minutes.    You'd expect him to at least have a positive +/- but he was a -2 (actual +/-).  

 

Does he get tough matchups?  I don't know, but that's not a good season for him considering Ryan Suter logged the toughest minutes and put up +12 TRpm.   

That tells me Scandella is weak defensively.

 

Scandella typically logged 55-60 per cent D-zone starts in Minny, so his coaches didn't agree.

[Randall Flagg]

So Ron Hainsey, Trevor van Reimsdyk-level guy?

 

Scandella typically logged 55-60 per cent D-zone starts in Minny, so his coaches didn't agree.

Right but you're forgetting the ace up his sleeve, TRPM.

[jeffismagic]

 

Sounds like a new drug from a pharmaceutical company.

[That Aud Smell]

I think he can handle the minutes and provide some stability.

 

I think he can play with Risto on the "top pair," but I am not overly concerned with this because

 

when you consider that the 2nd & 3rd pairing both should be expected to be adequate (at worst) in those roles. That should keep top pairing in the 22-24 minute range, not the 26+ we were seeing last year from guys

We won't need to hide AHL level talent and struggling vets, forcing Risto and McCabe to play half the game. 

 

JBOT and PH are on record, I believe, saying that they don't want Riso anchoring a mega-minute top-pairing this season.

[LGR4GM]

Scandella Risto getting 24mins a night. 

McCabe - ????? getting 20mins a night 

Baloo - ?????? getting 16mins a night. 

 

seems reasonable. 

[WildCard]

Scandella Risto getting 24mins a night. 

McCabe - Antipin getting 20mins a night 

Baloo - Bogosian getting 16mins a night. 

 

seems reasonable. 

[shrader]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.   

 

This is exactly where I am.  He's a top pair guy by default.  In an ideal world, he's probably second pairing.

[Randall Flagg]

 

JBOT and PH are on record, I believe, saying that they don't want Riso anchoring a mega-minute top-pairing this season.

So did Dan all of last summer. 

 

I'll believe it when I see it. 

 

(the improved defense may well make that easier for PH to do than it was for DB)

[stuuuuuuuuu]

There have been a few examples where solid young vet defensemen have moved into a lager role alongside a young stud D and it has helped both players excel.  Think Stralman and Hedman or Karlson once Methot came over from CBJ.  I know both are a little older but Paul Martin has played a massive, often uncredited role, in Brent Burns' explosion over the past couple seasons.

 

Here's to Scandella being that guy for Risto.

[qwksndmonster]

Liger it's not even pronounced baloo why are you calling him that?

[LGR4GM]

Liger it's not even pronounced baloo why are you calling him that?

Lazy. Typing out bowl-u takes longer

[Pokey Jones]

I think in a vacuum Marco is probably a #3, and a #4 on a deep defensive team, though I haven't watched him enough to be sure. 

 

He also never got the chance to grow to be more than that, behind Suter. So I'm intrigued. He's certainly our second best defender at this point. 

Yup. 

[Thorner]

On this roster he's a potential top pairing guy.   

 

On a contender is he's a 4th or 5th.

 

So before we even become a contender, we are going to have to acquire 2 or 3 more Defenceman better than Scandella, assuming that Ristolainen is better right now.

 

So, what's the time line then, 5-7 years? Assuming Scandella can still play at that point.

 

Maybe Guhle gets there. Still need another 2. Looks like we are up the creek without a paddle.

[French Collection]

Liger it's not even pronounced baloo why are you calling him that?

This is what comes to mind when I see Baloo.

 

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71yljRziScL._SL1118_.jpg

[rakish]

Liger is referencing a character from Jungle Book.

 

I was watching the animated Robin Hood with my nephew Patrick, age 5. I decide to troll my nephew "Pat, doesn't Friar Tuck look a lot like Baloo from Jungle Book?' 'Of course Uncle rake, they're played by the same actor.'

 

As it turns out, Patrick was right, Disney was drawing their characters to look like the voice actors, and Baloo and Friar Tuck were played by the same actor.