2018 - 2019 Lineup

[WildCard]

Good news.

 

Will we have a full compliment of NHL level Dmen by Christmas 2020?

[Sabres Fan in NS]

 

Good news.

 

Will we have a full compliment of NHL level Dmen by Christmas 2020?

 

 

:nana:

[WildCard]

:nana:

First time I posted that I had 2220 instead :lol:

[MattPie]

First time I posted that I had 2220 instead :lol:

 

Just in time for the outdoor game against the Sea of Tranquility Rage (one of the Original 6 Moon teams).

[Drunkard]

Moulson's cap hit in 2018/19 is $5mill but actual salary is $2million

 

If Sabres can trade him and pay $2million of his salary, does this mean the team acquiring him pay him nothing? They just incur $3 million on their salary cap?

The most we can retain is 50% of both cap and salary. That means we can retain half ($1 million salary and $2.5 milliom cap hit).

 

If we were trading him to a team trying to get to the cap floor they would probably want the full cap hit. Of course that's probably just wishful thinking though.

[LGR4GM]

how much of that salary is a July 1 bonus?

[Crusader1969]

The most we can retain is 50% of both cap and salary. That means we can retain half ($1 million salary and $2.5 milliom cap hit).

 

If we were trading him to a team trying to get to the cap floor they would probably want the full cap hit. Of course that's probably just wishful thinking though.

 

 

If I was Botterill, I would be calling Sakic this summer

 

17 players under contract - just under $49mill in salary (6 to 8 mill under the floor).  Could they be willing to take Moulson, pay him $1million / Sabres the other $1million and take the full $5million cap hit? Maybe we need to send them a draft pick to sweeten the deal?

 

His Salary next season is $1mill signing bonus plus $2 million base.  So, Sabres could pay signing bonus of $1mill on July 1st and then trade him to Colorada and pay half of his base Salary ($2mill). However the entire cap  hit could be put on the Avs books?

 

Would you play him with Eichel in hopes he puts up 15 goals or so, just to make sure someone will take him from you?

Edited November 7, 2017 by Crusader1969

[MattPie]

If I was Botterill, I would be calling Sakic this summer

 

17 players under contract - just under $49mill in salary (6 to 8 mill under the floor).  Could they be willing to take Moulson, pay him $1million / Sabres the other $1million and take the full $5million cap hit? Maybe we need to send them a draft pick to sweeten the deal?

 

His Salary next season is $1mill signing bonus plus $2 million base.  So, Sabres could pay signing bonus of $1mill on July 1st and then trade him to Colorada and pay half of his base Salary ($2mill). However the entire cap  hit could be put on the Avs books?

 

Would you play him with Eichel in hopes he puts up 15 goals or so, just to make sure someone will take him from you?

 

I don't know for sure, but I bet you can't separate cap and real dollar %. If the Sabres retain 50% of the salary, I bet they retain 50% of the cap hit too.

[WildCard]

BTW, Eichel knows you're all pissed at him

https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/928093468173496320

[LGR4GM]

Yea Jack, you need to shoot

[WildCard]

Yea Jack, you need to shoot

Dude is consistently bringing a knife to a gun fight for some reason

[LGR4GM]

Dude is consistently bringing a knife to a gun fight for some reason

Hates losing, doesn't know how to win.

[Weave]

Yea Jack, you need to shoot

He needs to get his head out of his ass.

[Doohicksie]

Hates discipline, doesn't know the system well yet.

 

fify

[WildCard]

@BillHoppeNHL

Josh Gorges said he's ready to go. Nathan Beaulieu said he's getting closer. #Sabres

[Sabres Fan in NS]

 

@BillHoppeNHL

Josh Gorges said he's ready to go. Nathan Beaulieu said he's getting closer. #Sabres

 

 

Should this not be in the 2017 - 2018 lineup thread?

 

As for 2018 - 2019, I fully expect the Sabres #1 pick (Zadina) to make the opening night roster.

[WildCard]

Should this not be in the 2017 - 2018 lineup thread?

 

As for 2018 - 2019, I fully expect the Sabres #1 pick (Zadina) to make the opening night roster.

Why does this thread even exist then? :lol:

[Drunkard]

If I was Botterill, I would be calling Sakic this summer

 

17 players under contract - just under $49mill in salary (6 to 8 mill under the floor).  Could they be willing to take Moulson, pay him $1million / Sabres the other $1million and take the full $5million cap hit? Maybe we need to send them a draft pick to sweeten the deal?

 

His Salary next season is $1mill signing bonus plus $2 million base.  So, Sabres could pay signing bonus of $1mill on July 1st and then trade him to Colorada and pay half of his base Salary ($2mill). However the entire cap  hit could be put on the Avs books?

 

Would you play him with Eichel in hopes he puts up 15 goals or so, just to make sure someone will take him from you?

 

You can't split it like that. Whatever amount you retain will be equal for both salary and cap hit. If we want to get rid of all of his cap hit we can't retain anything or pay him any salary. To move all $5 million of cap hit, the team we trade him to would have to pay his entire $2 million salary. We can wait until after July 1st to pay his $1 million signing/roster bonus though before we trade him. Then (assuming we can somehow trade him without retention) the team who acquires him pays the $2 million salary and gets the entire $5 million cap hit.

[DarthEbriate]

BTW, Eichel knows you're all pissed at him

https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/928093468173496320

 

Yea Jack, you need to shoot

 

Dude is consistently bringing a knife to a gun fight for some reason

I believe it is just a problem of youth. See -- Eichel is too young to remember the Original Trilogy pre-Special Edition. Jack doesn't know how to celebrate with Yub Nub or disco breakdown Max Rebo. He thinks it's all open-mouthed, spittle-flying, CGI yelling. Worse still, he doesn't know that Greedo never fired his weapon. He doesn't know that Han was a dangerous and untrustworthy entity when first met because he killed in cold blood, before goalie Greedo was able to suspect anything. It's all about the quick release and shooting first.

 

Jack, you need cold blood. You need to be like pre-Special Edition Han Solo. You need be more daring, dashing, and dangerous. You need a wookiee sidekick to tear people's arms off. You need to be a skeptic of the Force and things you read on the Internet. You can't let people re-draw your history for you. Shoot first, Jack! (Unless the perfect saucer for a Pommer tap-in is there... you know... then make the pass.)

[LGR4GM]

Lol

[sabresparaavida]

I believe it is just a problem of youth. See -- Eichel is too young to remember the Original Trilogy pre-Special Edition. Jack doesn't know how to celebrate with Yub Nub or disco breakdown Max Rebo. He thinks it's all open-mouthed, spittle-flying, CGI yelling. Worse still, he doesn't know that Greedo never fired his weapon. He doesn't know that Han was a dangerous and untrustworthy entity when first met because he killed in cold blood, before goalie Greedo was able to suspect anything. It's all about the quick release and shooting first.

 

Jack, you need cold blood. You need to be like pre-Special Edition Han Solo. You need be more daring, dashing, and dangerous. You need a wookiee sidekick to tear people's arms off. You need to be a skeptic of the Force and things you read on the Internet. You can't let people re-draw your history for you. Shoot first, Jack! (Unless the perfect saucer for a Pommer tap-in is there... you know... then make the pass.)

non-Jeffismagic post of the year

[dudacek]

Kane seems a little too well-manicured to be Chewie, but I like the idea of him tearing Brad Marchand's arms off.

[LGR4GM]

Kane seems a little too well-manicured to be Chewie, but I like the idea of him tearing Brad Marchand's arms off.

Laugh it up fuzzball?

[Thorner]

Kane seems a little too well-manicured to be Chewie, but I like the idea of him tearing Brad Marchand's arms off.

O'Reilly is assuredly Chewy, unless we traded for Brent Burns and I'm unaware.

[Crusader1969]

You can't split it like that. Whatever amount you retain will be equal for both salary and cap hit. If we want to get rid of all of his cap hit we can't retain anything or pay him any salary. To move all $5 million of cap hit, the team we trade him to would have to pay his entire $2 million salary. We can wait until after July 1st to pay his $1 million signing/roster bonus though before we trade him. Then (assuming we can somehow trade him without retention) the team who acquires him pays the $2 million salary and gets the entire $5 million cap hit.

This is where I am confused. Leafs pay $1.8 mill of Kessel's salary but the penguins get the entire cap hit.

 

Wouldn't it be, the Sabres could pay most of if not all Moulsons salary and the Avs (or whoever) take the $5 mill cap hit?

 

Edit. Ok leafs are hit with the $1.2 million of his cap hit. So whatever salary the Sabres pay of Moulsons $3 mill they get hit with

 

Unfortunately someone is going to have to be really desperate for the cap hit to take Moulson for basically free. Looks like buy out is best option. Don't think it's going to be enough savings to sign Kane for though. Hate the thought of trading Kane for even a mid first rounder whom will take 2 - 3 years to make an impact

Edited November 9, 2017 by Crusader1969