dudacek Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 I think what we can all agree on is that the 20-goal, 60-Point Kyle Okposo that Randall mocked two years ago is infinitely preferable to the 15-goal 40-Point anchor that Randall wanted to punt into orbit this year. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, dudacek said: I think what we can all agree on is that the 20-goal, 60-Point Kyle Okposo that Randall mocked two years ago is infinitely preferable to the 15-goal 40-Point anchor that Randall wanted to punt into orbit this year. 'Twas a loving mock while that was the case. Completely agree. If Kyle is rarin' to go I'll be pretty optimistic on balance heading into the season, and I should try to show the optimism I do have a little more 'round these parts. For instance, that development camp was pretty awesome. Holy Olofsson (and Mitts and Dahlin) Quote
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 2 hours ago, WildCard said: I mean to be fair you just listed 3 HoFs, including the 2nd leading all time scorer, a potential 4th HoF, and compared them to Kyle Okposo Iginla no doubt. Doan and Nash? No way. Quote
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hoss said: Iginla no doubt. Doan and Nash? No way. Nash probably not, but Doan has 972 points, a 21 year NHL career (92nd all time), the face of an expansion franchise...I think he gets in. Quote
Taro T Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Nash probably not, but Doan has 972 points, a 21 year NHL career (92nd all time), the face of an expansion franchise...I think he gets in. Arizona was NOT an expansion franchise. They've merely been built like one. Quote
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Just now, Taro T said: Arizona was NOT an expansion franchise. They've merely been built like one. Came from the Peg, right. Not an expansion, a relocation. Good catch Quote
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Nash probably not, but Doan has 972 points, a 21 year NHL career (92nd all time), the face of an expansion franchise...I think he gets in. Phoenix/Arizona isn’t an expansion franchise. .63 PPG and never eclipsed a PPG in a single season. If he had justified the contract he got when the whole league was chasing him he might’ve improved his chances, but if I’m making the decisions he’s not even close. And I like him. He was a great leader and most of his game was outside of production (I know I just cited his stats but it’s the easiest thing to point to). Quote
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Just now, Hoss said: Phoenix/Arizona isn’t an expansion franchise. .63 PPG and never eclipsed a PPG in a single season. If he had justified the contract he got when the whole league was chasing him he might’ve improved his chances, but if I’m making the decisions he’s not even close. And I like him. He was a great leader and most of his game was outside of production (I know I just cited his stats but it’s the easiest thing to point to). I corrected the misuse of word Right but you're not voting for him, old dinosaurs (sports writers) are. And Doan is universally loved with a hell of a long career with good point totals. I'd be shocked if they went any deeper into stats as you did Quote
Taro T Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, WildCard said: I corrected the misuse of word Right but you're not voting for him, old dinosaurs (sports writers) are. And Doan is universally loved with a hell of a long career with good point totals. I'd be shocked if they went any deeper into stats as you did And, he would essentially be Arizona's 1st HoF member. (Other guys that are in the hall that played there spent the bulk of their careers in Winnipeg or elsewhere.) That will count for something in the voting. There's a lot of guys in the HoF that don't belong there. They won't mind increasing that total by 1. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Lineup turnover Gone: Gorges, Pouliot, Nolan, Josefson, Antipin, Lehner, Johnson, ROR, Griffith, Tennyson (back to AHL), Falk, Kane and Moulson (sent away). Total 13 Brand New Faces (or nearly so) - Hutton, Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Sheary, Sobotka, Berglund, Hunwick, and Thompson (8) Mid-season replacements (2017/18) - Erod and Wilson (2) AHL graduates - Ullmark, Nelson (2) Quote
SDS Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Lineup turnover Gone: Gorges, Pouliot, Nolan, Josefson, Antipin, Lehner, Johnson, ROR, Griffith, Tennyson (back to AHL), Falk, Kane and Moulson (sent away). Total 13 Brand New Faces (or nearly so) - Hutton, Dahlin, Mittelstadt, Sheary, Sobotka, Berglund, Hunwick, and Thompson (8) Mid-season replacements (2017/18) - Erod and Wilson (2) AHL graduates - Ullmark, Nelson (2) Guhle? Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, SDS said: Guhle? Not sure he'll make the team because he can still be sent down. But as I outlined earlier today, alot more change could still be becoming if guys like Olofsson, Bailey, Baptiste, O'Regan, and Guhle win jobs in camp. Baloo, Larsson and Girgensons could be out also at that point. Quote
MDFan Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, SDS said: Guhle? I would think Guhle is a strong prospect for cracking the lineup out of camp, but certainly by mid year if not. I would hate to see Hunwick in the lineup at the expense of Guhle, but they may feel they need the experience. I think BooLoo is as good as gone. I would love to see someone from Rochester step up to push Girgensons and Larrson out, but I am not sure we will see that right out of the gate. Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Guhle is the poster child for the JBot system. Develop the players until they're practically over-ripe, then let them earn their way onto the NHL roster. The Sabres will probably be meh for another year or two until all the placeholders have been pushed off the roster and true talent makes its way up from Rochester. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Bailey and Baptiste would need to clear waivers. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, LGR4GM said: Bailey and Baptiste would need to clear waivers. But who wants a 4th year pro who can't even make the worst team in the NHL? Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 I think they'll be nhl players. At least 1 of them. Bailey got injured last year and they talked about keeping Baptiste down to work on things. Quote
WildCard Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 Sheary - Eichel - Oloffson ERod - Mittelstadt - Reinhart Sobotka - Berglund - Thompson Wilson - Girgensons - Pominville Quote
Hoss Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, WildCard said: Sheary - Eichel - Oloffson ERod - Mittelstadt - Reinhart Sobotka - Berglund - Thompson Wilson - Girgensons - Pominville Did they take Okposo out back and shoot him? 1 Quote
Thorner Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Hoss said: Did they take Okposo out back and shoot him? Old Poso. Quote
dudacek Posted July 9, 2018 Report Posted July 9, 2018 We’ve mostly talked about Berglund as picking up some of the defensive centre responsibilities that used to belong to O’Reilly. But by and large the guy has been a 20-goal, defensively responsible, heavy traffic winger, who happens to be good on draws. I would not be surprised to see him and the speedy Sheary lining up with Jack on our new first line. Quote
WildCard Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, Hoss said: Did they take Okposo out back and shoot him? He's in a better place now 1 Quote
North Buffalo Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 Gonna be interesting to see the line combos, but finally seeing some influx of talent and possibly the makings of a decent third line as well as a number 1 line! 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: He's in a better place now He is no longer in pain... ? Quote
Ogre Posted July 10, 2018 Report Posted July 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, WildCard said: Sheary - Eichel - Oloffson ERod - Mittelstadt - Reinhart Sobotka - Berglund - Thompson Wilson - Girgensons - Pominville I think I like your second line. I could see those three having chemistry. 1 Quote
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