WildCard Posted July 21, 2017 Report Posted July 21, 2017 Post all miscellaneous things about the 2017-2018 Sabres' lineup https://twitter.com/HeyBarber/status/888231121011396608 Quote
Thorner Posted July 21, 2017 Report Posted July 21, 2017 Post all miscellaneous things about the 2017-2018 Sabres' lineup https://twitter.com/HeyBarber/status/888231121011396608 He should try this in season. Can't be worse than that lame ass move he always uses that never works. Quote
WildCard Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Posted July 25, 2017 Some funny stuff between Eichel and Kane https://twitter.com/SabresBuzz/status/889316303332364288 Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 25, 2017 Report Posted July 25, 2017 Some funny stuff between Eichel and Kane https://twitter.com/SabresBuzz/status/889316303332364288 I just see one tweet from kane. Quote
WildCard Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Posted July 25, 2017 I just see one tweet from kane. Click on the picture Quote
Doohicksie Posted July 25, 2017 Report Posted July 25, 2017 Still doesn't work. Looks like you need to be signed into Twitter to see it; I am not. Quote
WildCard Posted July 25, 2017 Author Report Posted July 25, 2017 Still doesn't work. Looks like you need to be signed into Twitter to see it; I am not. You don't, because I'm not and it works for me. Quote
Thorner Posted July 25, 2017 Report Posted July 25, 2017 I really like this guy. Let's lock him up this season. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 ^ I really don't think an argument can be made that any single current NHL player means more to their team than Jack Eichel means to the Buffalo Sabres. Not talking just on-ice production wise. Quote
Sabel79 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 ^ I really don't think an argument can be made that any single current NHL player means more to their team than Jack Eichel means to the Buffalo Sabres. Not talking just on-ice production wise. McJesus means more to the Oilers. In all ways possible. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) McJesus means more to the Oilers. In all ways possible. Disagree completely. Eichel represents just as much to the Sabres fan base as McDavid does to that of the Oilers. Maybe moreso, as we are entrusting our hopes of a FIRST cup to him. Sabres rely on Eichel, on the ice, as much as the Oil rely on McDavid. Edited July 31, 2017 by Thorny Quote
Sabel79 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Disagree completely. Eichel represents just as much to the Sabres fan base as McDavid does. Maybe moreso, as we are entrusting our hopes of a FIRST cup to him. Sabres rely on Eichel, on the ice, as much or moreso than the Oil rely on McDavid. I most wholeheartedly disagree. The Oilers had literally half a generation of high end draft picks float through their franchise. Nothing stuck. The best player in quite some time, indeed, since well before the Oilers were bad enough to keep drafting first, and things go up from there. It should take nothing more than a short clip of the tears dude fought so hard to keep in when Edmonton won the lottery to know that they lucked ass-backwards into one of the greatest players ever. Dunno how dJack beats that, at least for the fans. And yes I assume all fans, as humans, are terrible monsters. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) I most wholeheartedly disagree. The Oilers had literally half a generation of high end draft picks float through their franchise. Nothing stuck. The best player in quite some time, indeed, since well before the Oilers were bad enough to keep drafting first, and things go up from there. It should take nothing more than a short clip of the tears dude fought so hard to keep in when Edmonton won the lottery to know that they lucked ass-backwards into one of the greatest players ever. Dunno how dJack beats that, at least for the fans. And yes I assume all fans, as humans, are terrible monsters. I dunno...I know McDavid is a better player. But, Aaron Rodgers is better than Andrew Luck, too. But yet the Packers rely on Rodgers no more than the Colts rely on Luck. The Sabres also waited longer for their "generational skater" than the Oilers did. Perreault has been gone longer than Gretzky and Messier have been. Still think Eichel means as much to the Sabres as any player does to their team. That just my view. Edited July 31, 2017 by Thorny Quote
Randall Flagg Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 I think Edmonton is still a bottom 5 team without McDavid, and this season they'll be a President's Trophy contender. Eichel doesn't definitively bring up possession and goals-for-percentage stats for his teammates yet, let alone impact wins/losses (I believe we had the same win percentage with him as without him this year) Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 I think Edmonton is still a bottom 5 team without McDavid, and this season they'll be a President's Trophy contender. Eichel doesn't definitively bring up possession and goals-for-percentage stats for his teammates yet, let alone impact wins/losses (I believe we had the same win percentage with him as without him this year) We have no idea if this is true. Bylsma was abysmal at coaching anything resembling a possession brand of hockey. Quote
WildCard Posted July 31, 2017 Author Report Posted July 31, 2017 I think Edmonton is still a bottom 5 team without McDavid, and this season they'll be a President's Trophy contender. Eichel doesn't definitively bring up possession and goals-for-percentage stats for his teammates yet, let alone impact wins/losses (I believe we had the same win percentage with him as without him this year) We have no idea if this is true. Bylsma was abysmal at coaching anything resembling a possession brand of hockey. Pretty sure there are stats on this somewhere. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 I think Edmonton is still a bottom 5 team without McDavid, and this season they'll be a President's Trophy contender. Eichel doesn't definitively bring up possession and goals-for-percentage stats for his teammates yet, let alone impact wins/losses (I believe we had the same win percentage with him as without him this year) And the Oilers had a better record post McDavid injury than they did pre-McDavid injury, in his first season. There are lots of different variables and factors that went into the teams' winning percentage with/without Eichel, (and McDavid). I'll attempt to express the view again that I not talking about raw stats. I'm talking about what Eichel means to the psyche of Sabres fans, on a broad scale. In my view, there is no way that we value what Eichel means for the Sabres less than what McDavid means to Oilers fans. The burden of value placed upon an athelete beloved by a fan base can't be simply broken down into an equation, or statistics. If one were to somehow able to create a list of which players their respective fan bases held in highest regard, it wouldn't correspond precisely to a list of talent and production, top to bottom. I find it hard to believe that Eichel means less to Sabres fans than McDavid does to Oilers fans. I guarantee Auston Matthews means as much to Leafs fans as McDavid does to Oilers fans. Unless I'm sorely mistaken in how much Eichel means to Sabres fans. And that wouldn't be an encouraging thought. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Pretty sure there are stats on this somewhere. Bylsma sucking at coaching hockey? We do, it is called Pittsburgh's 2 Stanley Cups and Buffalo's 2 lackluster seasons with bottom league possession stats. Quote
Sabel79 Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 And the Oilers had a better record post McDavid injury than they did pre-McDavid injury, in his first season. There are lots of different variables and factors that went into the teams' winning percentage with/without Eichel, (and McDavid). I'll attempt to express the view again that I not talking about raw stats. I'm talking about what Eichel means to the psyche of Sabres fans, on a broad scale. In my view, there is no way that we value what Eichel means for the Sabres less than what McDavid means to Oilers fans. The burden of value placed upon an athelete beloved by a fan base can't be simply broken down into an equation, or statistics. If one were to somehow able to create a list of which players their respective fan bases held in highest regard, it wouldn't correspond precisely to a list of talent and production, top to bottom. I find it hard to believe that Eichel means less to Sabres fans than McDavid does to Oilers fans. I guarantee Auston Matthews means as much to Leafs fans as McDavid does to Oilers fans. Unless I'm sorely mistaken in how much Eichel means to Sabres fans. And that wouldn't be an encouraging thought. I think you're underestimating the desperation of those fanbases as compared to ours. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 How could Edmonton be a more desperate fan base? Sabres have had way less success. The only time we were good in the last 15 years, the Oilers went to the final. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 How could Edmonton be a more desperate fan base? Sabres have had way less success. The only time we were good in the last 15 years, the Oilers went to the final.Before McDavid they were the laughingstock of the league for about 10 years straight. Quote
Thorner Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Before McDavid they were the laughingstock of the league for about 10 years straight. Ya. We are too. We haven't won a playoff series in over a decade. Quote
LGR4GM Posted July 31, 2017 Report Posted July 31, 2017 Ya. We are too. We haven't won a playoff series in over a decade. Won a playoff series... Yes that is what use to happen. Won with Drury and Briere... Now we have Eichel and he comes to us at the turn of the tide. Quote
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