JohnnyK Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 I think both Girgs and Bogo have an equal shot at redeption. They both play a game I can only describe as dumb. Not that either are dumb, but their game is dumb. I suspect that an up tempo attacking game will suit both of them. They are both better than we saw last year! (No where to go but up!) Bogo will be a physical D-man who hits and can carry the puck, unlike last year, where he was lost for the entire year. I think Grigs could be a good option on ROR left side and PK 1 winger Quote
R_Dudley Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Voted Girgs. Uptempo hound the puck, less thinking suits his style.. Quote
Samson's Flow Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 I think both Girgs and Bogo have an equal shot at redeption. They both play a game I can only describe as dumb. Not that either are dumb, but their game is dumb. I suspect that an up tempo attacking game will suit both of them. I give the slight edge to Bogo, just because I remember how effective he was when we first acquired him. I have blind faith that Housley can resurrect that with better coaching. But I do think we will see a motivated and improved Girgs as well. Quote
Weave Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 I'm not sure that Moulson or Bogo get a chance to, on this team anyways. Too many contracts, too many players, too much salary cap, and still need to add a few UFA's. JBot's got a busy weekend. Damn you and your teasing. And I'm out of town all weekend. Quote
pi2000 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) So coaching doesn't matter? Playing matters. I think the old coach preached such a terrible system that it made most of the team worse than they are, especially on the blue line. I expect the whole team to rebound this year under a more up-tempo system. I think collectively as a group they can play better, but to say any single guy is going to suddenly rise from the asshes because of Dr. Phil... is just wishful thinking. Maybe in some other universe, not this one. But can you coach a good college education? The college education in and of itself isn't as important as what it represents. Edited June 27, 2017 by pi2000 Quote
qwksndmonster Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 He was bad? :unsure:Invisible over the second half Quote
Weave Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Invisible over the second half Might as well not be on the ice. Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Based on what I saw towards the end of the season still think and hope Ennis gets it done.. miss the phantom ennis Quote
woods-racer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 I think both Girgs and Bogo have an equal shot at redeption. They both play a game I can only describe as dumb. Not that either are dumb, but their game is dumb. I suspect that an up tempo attacking game will suit both of them. We have had a good discussion on this in the past. Simple, instinctive and reactive hockey that is not heavy on white boards with X's and O's is how I remember the *dumb* hockey, and couldn't agree more. Girgs and Bogo should look the same as Nolan left them, and I would be happy with that. Quote
7+6=13 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 I went with other and was thinking Kulikov whom I think we may re-sign. Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 I went with other and was thinking Kulikov whom I think we may re-sign. Interesting, if they think he will and he is healthy, better than Gorges and probably better the Bogo. It sure would solidify D corps for next year. He sure skated better in the last few games, once he rested his back. That was a nasty hit he took and would shake anyone's play for a while. Quote
FLYNNSanity Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Definitely Zemgus, he couldn't work with DB at all. Not that Phils system will work with girgs but hey. Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Ennis I think if we start playing an up tempo attacking game, Ennis will fail, he doesn't have that north south game. Quote
BetterDays06 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Went with Bogo. He was a top 3 first round pick. He has so much potential and I think under Housley he will excel Quote
North Buffalo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 From a D perspective I hope Bogo responds, sure would be nice, bring a healthy Kuli back and lets see. So: Risto-McCabe Bogo - Kuli Antipin - Beaulieu Quote
TheAud Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Went with Bogo. He was a top 3 first round pick. He has so much potential and I think under Housley he will excel Potential he hasn't yet unleashed in his 8 full seasons in the NHL? I sure hope he can fit in as a number 4 who occasionally makes some plays, reduces the number of times he coughs it up in his own end as has been his tendency, and stays healthy enough to play at least 65 games. That would be a win for Bogo. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Posted June 28, 2017 From a D perspective I hope Bogo responds, sure would be nice, bring a healthy Kuli back and lets see. So: McCabe - Risto Kuli - Bogo Antipin - Beaulieu Fixed Quote
Thorner Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 From a D perspective I hope Bogo responds, sure would be nice, bring a healthy Kuli back and lets see. So: McCabe - Ristolainen Kulikov - Bogosian Beaulieu - Antipin Fixed Fixed again :p Quote
Mustache of God Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 Poor Moulson, not a single vote here. This makes me think he's going to rebound the hardest and put up close to 25 goals. Quote
pi2000 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 The more I think about it... the defense probably produces more points, but the forwards will produce less. Could see a step down in production for guys like ROR and Eichel. Everybody OK with that? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 The more I think about it... the defense probably produces more points, but the forwards will produce less. Could see a step down in production for guys like ROR and Eichel. Everybody OK with that? I don't think the forwards will produce less--I think they'll produce more (as a group). I do think we'll be giving up more goals, so the question is whether the offense grows more than the goals against regresses. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) I don't think the forwards will produce less--I think they'll produce more (as a group). I do think we'll be giving up more goals, so the question is whether the offense grows more than the goals against regresses. You mean ROR and KO aren't going to dip below the far-worst-than-previous-worst-season ES production they showed last season? And last season was the anomaly, it wasn't the new norm? Huzzah, I was thinking the red was the new ROR (i just scribbled that, please ignore that it's not normalized or actually mapped out based on his stats) Edited June 28, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 28, 2017 Report Posted June 28, 2017 You mean ROR and KO aren't going to dip below the far-worst-than-previous-worst-season ES production they showed last season? And last season was the anomaly, it wasn't the new norm? Huzzah, I was thinking the red was the new ROR (i just scribbled that, please ignore that it's not normalized or actually mapped out based on his stats) Honestly, I'd have believed those were the actual stats :lol: Quote
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