Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 ^agreed. Start in Rochester, helping Guhle. Gives us a good 2nd call-up option who we've seen get the puck out of the zone. Hopefully, more folks stay healthy this year and he helps keep the Amerks in the playoff picture. Too soon? What? It's been 10+ years. Quote
Doohicksie Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Too soon? Yes. I died a little (more) inside. :( Quote
bob_sauve28 Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Good. One can never have enough Dmen that can play in the league in a pinch, especially in a Game 7 of the ECF. Yes Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 In today's episode of "you know it's summer when"...we argue about how far down the depth chart a defenseman has to be in order to be considered a depth defenseman. :p Good signing. Still like him more than Falk. Quote
nfreeman Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Good signing. Still like him more than Falk. Me too, and I think he'll end up playing more games with the Sabres this season than with the Amerks. Quote
Doctor of Philhousley Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 In today's episode of "you know it's summer when"...we argue about how far down the depth chart a defenseman has to be in order to be considered a depth defenseman. :P Good signing. Still like him more than Falk. Or Gorges, cough cough... Quote
dudacek Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Me too, and I think he'll end up playing more games with the Sabres this season than with the Amerks. Is this because of how highly you think of Fedun, or how poorly you think of the rest of the blueline? Quote
Thorner Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Me too, and I think he'll end up playing more games with the Sabres this season than with the Amerks. Jeeze, let's hope not! Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 If he is playing more then 15 games with the Sabres this season, Jbot has failed us. Quote
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 If he is playing more then 15 games with the Sabres this season, Jbot has failed us. That's not necessarily true: injuries Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 That's not necessariloy true: injuries Didn't we just fire the entire training staff? ;) Quote
dejeanerret Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) With a quiet draft and teams now being able to make contact with free agents prior to July 1st, hoping this is an insurance signing rather than a white flag signifying were out of options when it comes to improving our D. Edited June 27, 2017 by dejeanerret Quote
Scottysabres Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 With a quiet draft and teams now being able to make contact with free agents prior to July 1st, hoping this is an insurance signing rather than a white flag signifying were out of options when it comes to improving our D. I'm still frightened capt. Kirk is on our radar for FA Quote
Robviously Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 We were better with him than without him last year, FWIW. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 We were better with him than without him last year, FWIW. The dude was sheltered but moved the puck up the ice better than all but 1 or 2 of our Dmen. Quote
Huckleberry Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 If he is playing more then 15 games with the Sabres this season, Jbot has failed us. Bogo will be out 25 games again :p Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Folks Fedun was our 8th D last season, Don't you hope for better this season? We have Risto, McCabe, Baloo, Bogo, Antipin, Gorges, Falk, Guhle under contract, Nelson, Austin and now Fedun. Don't you hope that Feden is slated for Roch and only called up when all other options are exhausted? Don't you still hope for a depth FA or two that are legit NHL players and not AAAA players like Fedun and Falk? Do really want to head into next season with 4/6 of the same starting D from last season's terrible group with Falk and Fedun being D 7 & 8 again. Come on we need to expect more then just the same failed re-treads. Quote
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Not sure why you think signing a depth, injury insurance defensemen is a sign of platitude. It's a smart move if you recognize it for what it is Quote
Robviously Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Not sure why you think signing a depth, injury insurance defensemen is a sign of platitude. It's a smart move if you recognize it for what it is And if you don't, it's a great reason to be OUTRAGED!!!1! Quote
dudacek Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Folks Fedun was our 8th D last season, Don't you hope for better this season? We have Risto, McCabe, Baloo, Bogo, Antipin, Gorges, Falk, Guhle under contract, Nelson, Austin and now Fedun. Don't you hope that Feden is slated for Roch and only called up when all other options are exhausted? Don't you still hope for a depth FA or two that are legit NHL players and not AAAA players like Fedun and Falk? Do really want to head into next season with 4/6 of the same starting D from last season's terrible group with Falk and Fedun being D 7 & 8 again. Come on we need to expect more then just the same failed re-treads. A lot right with this post in that we haven't improved the defence enough and need to acquire more. What's wrong with it though is the implication Falk and Fedun were the problem. Guhle/Falk/Fedun as our 7/8/9 matches up well with the rest of the league. Our issue was with Bogosian and Kulikov at 2/3 and Franson/Gorges at 5/6. The latter were incapable of moving higher on the depth chart and the former were disasters in their roles. I think between Guhle, Antipin and Beaulieu we've probably upgraded the 5/6 positions, but the 3/4 is still a huge issue. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) Falk and Fedun weren't the problem, but they aren't the solution either. My point is our 7/8 guys need to be better the AAAA players. Fedun played 13 very protected minutes a night in his 27 games last season. Yes he scored 7 pts and yes he was +3, but even DD realized that he wasn't good enough to take on a bigger role. All I'm asking for is something along the following 1 Risto 2 McCabe 3 ????? 4 Baloo 5. Antipin 6. Bogo 7. Gorges (if not sent down or bought out - there is still time Jbot) 8. UFA vet (or two when? we part company with Gorges 9. Guhle - playing top minutes in Roch with spot callups. 10. Falk - 10th on this chart, but should be called up if necessary for longer injury fill in especially early in the season 11. Nelson - could vault up this chart if get D-zone figured out. Housley might be the best thing to happen to this kid. 12. Austin 13. Fedun 14. Stephens I'm not unhappy that Fedun is back. I think he is an above average AHL player and his experience can only help Guhle and Stephens get used to the pro game. That said I really don't want to see Falk or Fedun unless it is a true emergency situation. I think Jbot can find better depth for the NHL. Remember that TM primarily signed Falk and Fedun to be the top pair in Roch and not to be key figures in Buffalo. Duda, I'm going to assume Jbot won't make a bigger move for a 3/4 until the trade deadline if at all. I think he probably wants to be patient and see if Housley can't resurrect Bogo and therefore has a 2nd pair of Bogo and Baloo or Antipin depending on how camp goes. I think he'll want Guhle to start the year in Rochester to learn the pro game, then hopefully be ready in 2018-19 for the NHL. Edited June 27, 2017 by GASabresFan Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Falk and Fedun weren't the problem, but they aren't the solution either. My point is our 7/8 guys need to be better the AAAA players. Fedun played 13 very protected minutes a night in his 27 games last season. Yes he scored 7 pts and yes he was +3, but even DD realized that he wasn't good enough to take on a bigger role. All I'm asking for is something along the following 1 Risto 2 McCabe 3 ????? 4 Baloo 5. Antipin 6. Bogo 7. Gorges (if not sent down or bought out - there is still time Jbot) 8. UFA vet (or two when? we part company with Gorges 9. Guhle - playing top minutes in Roch with spot callups. 10. Falk - 10th on this chart, but should be called up if necessary for longer injury fill in especially early in the season 11. Nelson - could vault up this chart if get D-zone figured out. Housley might be the best thing to happen to this kid. 12. Austin 13. Fedun 14. Stephens I'm not unhappy that Fedun is back. I think he is an above average AHL player and his experience can only help Guhle and Stephens get used to the pro game. That said I really don't want to see Falk or Fedun unless it is a true emergency situation. I think Jbot can find better depth for the NHL. Which NHL teams have better 7/8 guys than Falk/Fedun, and can you show that those guys are better? Also that depth chart is whack, because Fedun is very clearly better than Austin, Nelson, Falk, and Gorges. Quote
WildCard Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 This is like buying a Natty Daddy and being upset it doesn't taste like a craft beer. It's cheap and gets the job done in a pinch, nothing more to it Quote
carpandean Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 Also that depth chart is whack, because Fedun is very clearly better than Austin, Nelson, Falk, and Gorges. Austin is out, anyway, as he wasn't qualified today. Quote
inkman Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 This is like buying a Natty Daddy and being upset it doesn't taste like a craft beer. It's cheap and gets the job done in a pinch, nothing more to it I had never heard of Natty Daddy until today. This marks the second time I've heard it today. Weird. Quote
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