Thorner Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 Except you won't have to pay him 6.25 x 7 next Spring. The plus being he can play now. Quote
Thorner Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 A. Can't make someone sign, he has to WANT to forgo his best shot to get a big payday. B. You need to trust him over a 7 year term. Do you? Can't speculate on A. B, I would, for a non-outrageous amount. Quote
The Dominator Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 And I'm sold Yep. A lot of talk about forward prospects here. I'm surprised there isn't as much of a focus on D-men. Are the D prospects you're interested in out of reach of the 8th pick? Quote
Robviously Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 If Vegas is looking to acquire picks to move up,could we flip #8 for Shea Theodore? Quote
Thorner Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 A. Can't make someone sign, he has to WANT to forgo his best shot to get a big payday. B. You need to trust him over a 7 year term. Do you? If this were a Cup run year I'd agree with you. It's not. Kane has to be moved. Preferably today. Don't agree here. Can foresee a deep playoff run in the next 2 seasons (see, Ottawa) if they continue to fix the D. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Sounds like Evander Kane, really. In the sense he's offense only, yea. But Kane is a volume scorer, Tippett's scouting report is that of a sniper. Quote
WildCard Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Yep. A lot of talk about forward prospects here. I'm surprised there isn't as much of a focus on D-men. Are the D prospects you're interested in out of reach of the 8th pick? I honestly don't know a ton about this draft. If Vegas is looking to acquire picks to move up,could we flip #8 for Shea Theodore? They want top picks though, somewhere in the top 4. I'd think Theodore would help them doing that more than flipping our 8 would. They could trade Theodore straight up to the Avs for 4 I'd bet Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Yep. A lot of talk about forward prospects here. I'm surprised there isn't as much of a focus on D-men. Are the D prospects you're interested in out of reach of the 8th pick? 2 of the 3 - Liljegren has been discussed and has a good possibility of being a Sabres. Quote
Thorner Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 Yes, but you only have Evander for this coming year. We don't know this for a fact. If true, he absolutely won't sign, I'd ship him out only for the right return, still. A season of Kane has a value to me. Quote
The Dominator Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Land Scandella for a 2, draft someone to play with Jack and put biscuits in baskets. Scandella is a top 4 defender? Quote
3putt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 In the sense he's offense only, yea. But Kane is a volume scorer, Tippett's scouting report is that of a sniper. you mean volume shooter correct? Quote
The Dominator Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Anyone you are drafting at 8 is this year? This year? No. They could eventually turn into one though. Will Scandella be a top 2 pairing on a playoff team? Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 would you hold onto Kane to try make play-offs this year? trade at deadline if they are out of contention. If they are in the race, come the deadline, let him potentially walk for nothing? I think I would, unless someone knocks my socks off with a deal. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 With the 8th pick in the 2017 NHL draft, the Buffalo Sabres select.... LHD Juuso Valimaki (6'2" 212 lbs.) I think he'll be the pick if we don't trade LW Evander Kane for a Defensemen. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 We don't know this for a fact. If true, he absolutely won't sign, I'd ship him out only for the right return, still. A season of Kane has a value to me. If his value right now is a 2nd and B-prospect, that's probably his value at the trade deadline, right? Though a player's value is usually highest right now, I'm not sure that holds for Kane. We could try to make a run and still get value if we fall short, or even if we're on the bubble (for instance, maybe Nylander is ready in spring) without sacrificing the run. Though I'm fairly certain trading Kane if we're on the bubble would cause a board crash :lol: Quote
3putt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 If his value right now is a 2nd and B-prospect, that's probably his value at the trade deadline, right? Though a player's value is usually highest right now, I'm not sure that holds for Kane. We could try to make a run and still get value if we fall short, or even if we're on the bubble (for instance, maybe Nylander is ready in spring) without sacrificing the run. Though I'm fairly certain trading Kane if we're on the bubble would cause a board crash :lol: or a butt rash of some sort Quote
Brawndo Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Nylander-Eichel-Tippett does sound like a fun line Quote
Radar Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) would you hold onto Kane to try make play-offs this year? trade at deadline if they are out of contention. If they are in the race, come the deadline, let him potentially walk for nothing? I think I would, unless someone knocks my socks off with a deal. This is how I feel. He may not fetch more now than at the deadline and we don't have him for a full season. I'm not trading him for anything less than a top three defenseman or first round pick plus a prospect. Don't think that's happening. Edited June 23, 2017 by Radar Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 with both Friedman and Dreger linking Shattenkirk to Buffalo, does this change the opinion of the "draft a dman at 8 regardless" crowd at all? Quote
Thorner Posted June 23, 2017 Author Report Posted June 23, 2017 would you hold onto Kane to try make play-offs this year? trade at deadline if they are out of contention. If they are in the race, come the deadline, let him potentially walk for nothing? I think I would, unless someone knocks my socks off with a deal. Agreed. If his value right now is a 2nd and B-prospect, that's probably his value at the trade deadline, right? Though a player's value is usually highest right now, I'm not sure that holds for Kane. We could try to make a run and still get value if we fall short, or even if we're on the bubble (for instance, maybe Nylander is ready in spring) without sacrificing the run. Though I'm fairly certain trading Kane if we're on the bubble would cause a board crash :lol: This is where I am at as well. I'm not outright opposed to dealing Kane, I just probably put more value in a season-long rental than most, particularly if his current return is ballz. Quote
3putt Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 with both Friedman and Dreger linking Shattenkirk to Buffalo, does this change the opinion of the "draft a dman at 8 regardless" crowd at all? They"re spitballing clickbait. I can't see him coming here. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 with both Friedman and Dreger linking Shattenkirk to Buffalo, does this change the opinion of the "draft a dman at 8 regardless" crowd at all? No because I think Shattenkirk goes to the Rangers like he wants. Also they should take the most talented player they can at #8. Quote
Crusader1969 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 No because I think Shattenkirk goes to the Rangers like he wants. Also they should take the most talented player they can at #8. so Tippett? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Agreed. This is where I am at as well. I'm not outright opposed to dealing Kane, I just probably put more value in a season-long rental than most, particularly if his current return is ballz. Maybe we should put a poll up, but I get the distinct impression the "keep Kane" (even for just the season) crowd is much larger than the "trade him now for futures" group. Quote
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