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Well, this is based on what?  Pure point differential?

 

Are you accounting for the probability/potential that any of those players could hit the number Reinhart was at?  If the probability they could reach Reinhart is 1-5% and 0% that they could reach 5 points more than Reinhart and the probability of Reinhart getting 5 more points next season is 95% and he has a 30% chance of hitting Draisaitl numbers then you'd have to say that Reinhart is closer to Draisaitl than the other players are closer to Reinhart... wouldn't you?

 

Because there is no way Franson is closer to Reinhart than Reinhart is to Draisaitl.

No. What I said was that those guys were closer to catching Sam in scoring than Sam was to Draisaitl. This is a correct statement and I meant to imply no more and no less. 

 

For the record, I'm not totally convinced a 40 something point forward is closer to being a top 10 scorer in the league than he is to being a very good 3rd pairing D that was still decent in a second pairing role, and was capable of being a positive possession player on our dumpster fire team, though. But this is the first time I've indicated that. Before this, it was all about point differentials which are cut and dry.

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There is an entire thread dedicated to this topic. You're fired. Sad!

I thought it odd that there was no thread, but as of now the link only appears on the main page. I think there may be many threads I am missing.

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No. What I said was that those guys were closer to catching Sam in scoring than Sam was to Draisaitl. This is a correct statement and I meant to imply no more and no less. 

 

For the record, I'm not totally convinced a 40 something point forward is closer to being a top 10 scorer in the league than he is to being a very good 3rd pairing D that was still decent in a second pairing role, and was capable of being a positive possession player on our dumpster fire team, though. But this is the first time I've indicated that. Before this, it was all about point differentials which are cut and dry.

 

So, it's just your opinion with no statistical analysis?  I'm asking not because I discredit it, but because you are normally using some kind of statistical analysis in your projections of hockey so I wanted to be sure.  As I write this I am thinking no matter what it is going to come across wrong, so I will reiterate.  I am giving you credit for the usual amount of stastical analysis you use when making statements and I wanted to understand if you used similar analysis here or if it was something much simpler.  I hope that helps...  I'm going away for 10 days so I won't know for awhile I suppose :).

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“It’s a tough one,” began Dreger. “The player is wanting to be respectful of the hierarchy of the Boston Bruins. And it’s really tough to negotiate on a number that’s above the 6.125, which is the average of Brad Marchand.

 

“But, in saying that, it’s not David Pastrnak’s fault that Brad Marchand decided to settle at the time that he did. And he was paid handsomely. I mean, that’s a good, big buck for Brad Marchand. But he’s a superstar player in the National Hockey League. David Pastrnak is still projecting to be a star/superstar player in the NHL. I mean the upside of this kid – I happen to love him. I got to know him a little bit at the world championships. I mean, he has got tons of personality and we can see the skill-set of David Pastrnak.

 

Outlining Insiders’ Views On Duchene Trade Front

 

“So the Boston Bruins aren’t questioning whether or not this kid can play and play at an elite level. They believe that he’s pretty much there right now. But they do have to observe, again, the salary structure within the organization.

 

“So I’m sure that Boston is comfortable at the reported number of 6X6. Maybe it has to go a bit longer than that in term, or they’ve got to forget what Brad Marchand is making and squeak it up a little higher than the 6.1 which I know that they would pay.

 

“So it’s an interesting predicament. But I don’t believe for a second that the Bruins have any interest in trading David Pastrnak.”

 

https://www.fanragsports.com/news/dreger-delves-pastrnak-contract-situation-bruins/

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“That’s a great question and I think people right now are a little uncertain,” began Friedman. “Again, this was one about six weeks ago there was a lot of optimism that they were moving in the right direction.

 

“I think a lot of teams look at Boston and they say, ‘Look, we’ve got Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand as our highest-paid skaters and nobody is going to make more than those guys will.’ And I think that’s what Boston hopes to do.

 

“What I think here is when Connor McDavid signed his big contract in Edmonton, one agent told me, ‘Look, players are going to understand we’re not as good as Connor McDavid, but maybe we’re not $6 million worse than Connor McDavid.’

 

“And I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one of the things that happens here. What the McDavid deal has done is it has raised the bar maybe up a little bit, and a number of players who would be below that are saying, ‘Okay, that raises us up a little bit too.’

 

“And I wouldn’t be surprised if that contract, like it moved up Draisaitl, it maybe is moving up Pastrnak in his own eyes – and that’s creating a little bit of a problem for the Bruins and the player in getting a deal done.”

https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-eyes-key-remaining-nhl-contract-situations/

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That view is way too simplistic.  It's only applicable this summer and maybe the next year or two.  By the time year 5 of that McDavid contract rolls around and average salaries and/or the cap have increased, his contract has stayed the same, but the reference point for those about to sign has shifted upward.  Look no further than Duncan Keith's contract for a perfect example of why you can't compare a player today to a contract that was signed in what might as well have been a lifetime ago.

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That view is way too simplistic.  It's only applicable this summer and maybe the next year or two.  By the time year 5 of that McDavid contract rolls around and average salaries and/or the cap have increased, his contract has stayed the same, but the reference point for those about to sign has shifted upward.  Look no further than Duncan Keith's contract for a perfect example of why you can't compare a player today to a contract that was signed in what might as well have been a lifetime ago.

As are all aphorisms..

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Kinda hope the Sabres take a look at Blaine Byron. Even if he only ends up as an AHL guy.

Friedman mentioned he is waiting for Butcher to decide on a team, as many clubs are approaching the 50 contract limit, obviously Buffalo is not close.

 

It was published somewhere that the Sabres are in on him as he can play left wing.

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BUF is at 44 contracts btw.

 

Are we among the lower counts in the league? 

 

Good to have flexibility, I guess.

 

Also:

 

Hearing many instances of teams having players drop weight this summer. Some as many as 15 pounds. All about speed.

8:36 AM - 24 Aug 2017
 
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BUF is at 44 contracts btw.

 

some UFAs...

 

Wideman

Jagr

Stafford

Vanek

 

 

...I'd look at guys like Mitchell and Winnik.

 

It should be interesting when we get to the point where you start hearing about certain guys accepting tryout deals at different training camps.  Buffalo is certainly setup for that.

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