North Buffalo Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Sigh, gonna be a long month and a half... sigh I miss hockey. Especially consideeing the Bills situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) I mean, I'd agree, but they did trade Seguin and Hamilton. Sliver of hope? -Chiarelli Edited August 15, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 We need to stop trading multiple assets, especially young assets. We will need those cheap cost controlled contracts sooner rather than later. Good post - I liked this especially. I'm not sure you appreciate how good Pastrnak is. You're going to have to part with a prime asset for him...and he'd be worth it. I know I have no frickin' clue. What's the consensus on a reasonable deal? Is it Reinhart and we get this player and something back (or like a swap where we upgrade)? Is it a prized prospect and a pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 Good post - I liked this especially. I know I have no frickin' clue. What's the consensus on a reasonable deal? Is it Reinhart and we get this player and something back (or like a swap where we upgrade)? Is it a prized prospect and a pick? Pastrnak is easily worth Reinhart as we sit right now. It would probably take Reinhart and something like Nylander or maybe you get them to take a pick but we would need to add to the deal from our end. Reinhart is coming off of a nice 47pt sophomore season. Pastrnak is coming off of a 70pt 3rd season. The interesting part is that Pastrnak has only played 5 more games than Reinhart. So right now Pastrnak as a RW is worth more than Reinhart. My issue is that our prospect pool is thinner because Eichel and Reinhart are already NHL players. We are getting that depth back with Nylander and Mittelstadt + the continued improvement of our later round guys. If you trade Reinhart and Nylander or Reinhart, Nylander, Guhle for Pastrnak you are losing more cost controlled assets and depth to add more high end expensive talent. We also do not know if Reinhart can bring his game up closer to Pastrnak level and make the trade irrelevant. To me it isn't the right time to trade a group of cost controlled assets. If you could trade Kane and a pick for Pastrnak than sure do it but that isn't enough to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted August 15, 2017 Report Share Posted August 15, 2017 (edited) Pastrnak is probably asking for 7.5m+ and the Bruins are balking. Their highest paid player makes 7.25m. He scored 70 points last year and he is 21. Welcome back, good summer so far? I think the + will include 2 of Guhle Nylander and Mittelstadt. Pretty steep but I would consider it. I would trade any one of Reinhart, Mittelstadt, Nylander, or Guhle in a package for Pastrnak, definitely. But not 2 of them, in any combination. Edited August 15, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) I'm actually balking on dealing Reinhart for him, on closer inspection. Reinhart had a higher points per games played in his sophomore season than Pastrnak did (granted, Reinhart was one year older at the time). Pastrnak had his big breakout in season 3, right about the time where players often have them, and Sam's is this coming season. AND it's hard to argue that Reinhart's talents were maximized in Bylsma's system. Seems like a sell low, buy high situation to me. I'd probably still make the trade, considering Pastrnak is a little more of a sure thing at RW, but at the first sniff of "Reinhart back to centre" talk from the powers that be, I'm not swinging at that trade pitch from the Bruins. Sorry, watching baseball. Edited August 16, 2017 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I feel my rose color glasses as I say this... I wouldn't trade Mittelstadt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) @WEEI Don Sweeney confirms Bruins are not trading David Pastrnak http://www.weei.com/blogs/ty-anderson/don-sweeney-confirms-bruins-are-not-trading-david-pastrnak?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Edited August 16, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I would so, so readily give up Reinhart + Nylander for David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 @WEEI Don Sweeney confirms Bruins are not trading David Pastrnak http://www.weei.com/blogs/ty-anderson/don-sweeney-confirms-bruins-are-not-trading-david-pastrnak?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter He had to make a statement, bruins fans were getting a bit to worried :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Draisatl 8 x 8.5 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/free-agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Draisatl 8 x 8.5 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/free-agency That's ... not as much as I thought he'd get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 That's ... not as much as I thought he'd get? I thought he'd get $9, but $8.5 is nothing to sneeze at for him. Definitely helps us with Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 here's the link http://www.tsn.ca/oilers-lock-up-draisaitl-to-eight-year-68m-deal-1.831750 Draisatl 8 x 8.5 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/free-agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 #MNWild sign veteran center Matt Cullen to $1 million, 1-year deal with $700,000 in performance bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 #MNWild sign veteran center Matt Cullen to $1 million, 1-year deal with $700,000 in performance bonuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 ###### ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 ? I thought he'd be a great fit to help offload ROR in certain areas... and provide leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 I thought he'd be a great fit to help offload ROR in certain areas... and provide leadership. oh, I follow you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 oh, I follow you now. Yeah i was hoping he would be a late addition as JBOT was hinting that there might be some moves closer to the beginning of the season. I've always liked Cullen's game, and he's still plenty fast for his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Edmonton is definitely in Cap trouble now, especially if they just paid 8.5 for a winger. McD and Draisaitl are I think roughly the same % of cap as Toews and Kane are, but they had success before those big deals. Lucic deal now problematic. RNH as good as gone. I'll happily take Reinhart for 1/2 to 3/4 of that Draisaitl $, on a bridge, considering I think he'll probably end up just as good. And Jack will get less than McDavid. Good, gooood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 (edited) @IneffectiveMath Patrick Marleau is a third-liner who has been given minutes well above his recent results. Edited August 16, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 There's part of me that loves #fancystats . And there's part of me that dies inside when I see a screen grab like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohicksie Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Did anyone mention this? Cal O'Reilly has a contract with the Minnesota Wild. For those who may not remember, he was loaned by the Sabres organization to the Toronto Marlies in March.On July 1, 2017, O'Reilly left the Sabres as a free agent, signing a two-year, two-way deal with the Minnesota Wild. I think it was pretty obvious he didn't have a future in Buffalo. Good luck in Minnesota, Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted August 16, 2017 Report Share Posted August 16, 2017 Edmonton is definitely in Cap trouble now, especially if they just paid 8.5 for a winger. McD and Draisaitl are I think roughly the same % of cap as Toews and Kane are, but they had success before those big deals. Lucic deal now problematic. RNH as good as gone. I'll happily take Reinhart for 1/2 to 3/4 of that Draisaitl $, on a bridge, considering I think he'll probably end up just as good. And Jack will get less than McDavid. Good, gooood. Based on what we've seen from both, that's incredibly bold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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