Around the NHL 2017

[Randall Flagg]

The Hockey News' Top 50 Players for this coming season. Hah.

    NAME  (SS ranking)

1. Connor McDavid (1)
2. Sidney Crosby (2)
3. Erik Karlsson (4)
4. Patrick Kane (3)
5. Carey Price (25)
6. Sergei Bobrovsky (37)
7. Evgeni Malkin (11)
8. Auston Matthews (10)
9. Victor Hedman (14)
10. Brent Burns (5)
11. Patrice Bergeron (30)
12. Jonathan Toews (60)
13. Braden Holtby (23)
14. Nikita Kucherov (6)
15. Mark Scheifele (18)
16. Nicklas Backstrom (17)
17. John Tavares (12)
18. Vladimir Tarasenko (16)
19. Johnny Gaudreau (42)
20. Tyler Seguin (24)
21. Jamie Benn (13)
22. Ryan Suter (33)
23. Brad Marchand (22)
24. Patrik Laine (15)
25. Jack Eichel (7)
26. Blake Wheeler (52)
27. Ryan Getzlaf (27)
28. Leon Draisaitl (9)
29. P.K. Subban (21)
30. Matt Murray (46)
31. Drew Doughty (19)
32. Duncan Keith (28)
33. Joe Pavelski (36)
34. Kevin Shattenkirk (103)
35. Ryan McDonagh (74)
36. Alexander Ovechkin (8)
37. David Pastrnak (44)
38. Aleksander Barkov (31)
39. Dougie Hamilton (80)
40. Mikael Granlund (49)
41. Max Pacioretty (58)
42. Artemi Panarin (26)
43. Marc-Edouard Vlasic (84)
44. Evgeny Kuznetsov (66)
45. Roman Josi (35)
46. Steven Stamkos (20)
47. Logan Couture (79)
48. Mark Stone (112)
49. Claude Giroux (63)
50. Kris Letang (53)

Edited August 10, 2017 by Randall Flagg

[WildCard]

That might be the worst list I've ever seen

[Randall Flagg]

Kevin Shattenkirk is better than Ovechkin, Barkov, Letang, Stamkos, Josi etc.

 

Toews (58 pts, 0 playoff wins) better than Getzlaf (73 points, 2 wins from SCFs), 6th best center in NHL

 

Eichel worse than Laine      

 

Granlund better than Stamkos

 

Matthews 4th best center in the world

 

What a strange universe the list makers live in. 

 

Also, the first leaf fan reaction in the thread I pulled this from was disgust that Bozak and JVR didn't make it.

Oh, and OEL can't hold the jocks of Dougie Hamilton and Kevin Shattenkirk.

And their qualifications for the list are the same as for our game, so I'm going to redo this but put where they land in our draft next to it.

Edited August 10, 2017 by Randall Flagg

[WildCard]

And their qualifications for the list are the same as for our game, so I'm going to redo this but put where they land in our draft next to it, as well as the hfboards ranking. 

Big fan of this. Thanks

[Randall Flagg]

Big fan of this. Thanks

Can't do the hf one because i realized theirs was forwards only and then defense only, but i did ours.

[WildCard]

Can't do the hf one because i realized theirs was forwards only and then defense only, but i did ours.

Eh I'm more interested in our opinions than theirs anyways :D

[LGR4GM]

I'd post this list in Jack's locker with his name highlighted.

[Sabel79]

I'd post this list in Jack's locker with his name highlighted.

Laine's as well. 

[Thorner]

Garbage list, garbage publication.

[Brawndo]

Bryan Murray, Tim's Uncle has passed away

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Bryan Murray, Tim's Uncle has passed away

 

F*** CANCER!!

Bryan Murray, Tim's Uncle has passed away

 

Not questioning this report, but it isn't even reported on the Sens official web site.

[Sabre fan]

Sadly it is true

 

Bryan Murray, the long-time general manager of the Ottawa Senators, has passed away at age 74.

Murray had a 620-465-131-23 record as an NHL head coach, having led the Capitals, Red Wings, Panthers, Ducks, and Senators in a 27-year coaching career.

 

He announced on Nov. 13, 2014 that he had Stage 4 colon cancer.

 

“Bryan was one of the greatest men that the game of hockey has ever known and also a great father, mentor and teacher,” said Senators owner Eugene Melnyk in a release. “We extend our sincere condolences to his wife, Geri, daughters, Heide and Brittany and the entire Murray family on their loss.”

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/former-senators-gm-coach-bryan-murray-dead-74/

[LTS]

It was only a matter of time... unfortunately.  It sucks.... while we hate on each other and kill each other over petty crap we continue to use energy that would be better spent fighting a disease that doesn't care who you are.

[3putt]

It was only a matter of time... unfortunately.  It sucks.... while we hate on each other and kill each other over petty crap we continue to use energy that would be better spent fighting a disease that doesn't care who you are.

Or hate.  It doesn't care who you are just what you look like, pray to or seek comfort with.  

Nasty shyte in Charlottesville today.  Has me bummed.  I Will delete the post if inappropriate

[That Aud Smell]

Mr. Smell,

 

I noticed you have a 'd' in there up thread, but I will cut you some slack.

/feels shame

[pi2000]

Not necessarily NHL related, but USA Hockey is changing the rules about playing shorthanded for this upcoming season.    The shorthanded team will no longer be allowed to freely ice the puck, it will be called icing and the faceoff will come back into the shorthanded team's zone.     This applies to 14U (Bantam) and younger divisions.

[drnkirishone]

Not necessarily NHL related, but USA Hockey is changing the rules about playing shorthanded for this upcoming season.    The shorthanded team will no longer be allowed to freely ice the puck, it will be called icing and the faceoff will come back into the shorthanded team's zone.     This applies to 14U (Bantam) and younger divisions.

 i like the change

[shrader]

Not necessarily NHL related, but USA Hockey is changing the rules about playing shorthanded for this upcoming season.    The shorthanded team will no longer be allowed to freely ice the puck, it will be called icing and the faceoff will come back into the shorthanded team's zone.     This applies to 14U (Bantam) and younger divisions.

 

I love that they're testing that one out.  If hockey really wants to boost scoring, that would be a huge change.  That paired with the no change after an icing rule would be brutal for the PK.  The big concern though will be if it slows things down too much.  Teams will still ice the puck since it beats the alternative, so that's more stoppages of play.  That or they'll try to put the puck into the benches, which may bring on a safety issue.

[WildCard]

Boosting scoring through the power play isn't really that fun though, is it? Sure, it's a 4-3 game now, but 4/7 of those goals are just pp goals. I want 5v5 scoring improved.

[LGR4GM]

Boosting scoring through the power play isn't really that fun though, is it? Sure, it's a 4-3 game now, but 4/7 of those goals are just pp goals. I want 5v5 scoring improved.

Start calling defensive interference which happens EVERY SINGLE zone entry. 

[TrueBlueGED]

I love that they're testing that one out. If hockey really wants to boost scoring, that would be a huge change. That paired with the no change after an icing rule would be brutal for the PK. The big concern though will be if it slows things down too much. Teams will still ice the puck since it beats the alternative, so that's more stoppages of play. That or they'll try to put the puck into the benches, which may bring on a safety issue.

A second consequence I could see is that officials would be even more reluctant to call penalties, especially in an important game.

Boosting scoring through the power play isn't really that fun though, is it? Sure, it's a 4-3 game now, but 4/7 of those goals are just pp goals. I want 5v5 scoring improved.

Game flow > scoring. Not that I'm going to complain about more goals however they may come, but it's definitely a band-aid solution.

[Eleven]

Start calling defensive interference which happens EVERY SINGLE zone entry. 

 

Exactly.

[shrader]

A second consequence I could see is that officials would be even more reluctant to call penalties, especially in an important game.

 

 

Don't we have that already though?

[LGR4GM]

Next time someone enters the zone and tries to go around Bogosian watch what he does. If they step around him, stick out, hand out, obstructions. Will be called 1 time in 20, 30. 

[pi2000]

I love that they're testing that one out.  If hockey really wants to boost scoring, that would be a huge change.  That paired with the no change after an icing rule would be brutal for the PK.  The big concern though will be if it slows things down too much.  Teams will still ice the puck since it beats the alternative, so that's more stoppages of play.  That or they'll try to put the puck into the benches, which may bring on a safety issue.

 

For youth hockey you're allowed to make changes after icing, that won't change on the PK.    

 

Coaches are still going to tell kids to ice the puck, this is going to slow the game down significantly IMO.    I would've rather they did something else, like force the player to serve the entire penalty no matter how many goals are scored.