sabills Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 It's a small world, you don't wanna be that guy. Also the gm could intervene. I know, but its also a world where winning is the only way you get a job. We're not trying to get a guy from the Avalanche to come be our AGM. I'm not saying this guy, or even most guys, would do anything bad or untoward, but if I'm the GM why give anyone the chance? Though I guess you're better off keeping him around and limiting his input than letting him go to the other team before the draft and telling them everything, so maybe that's it. Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 I know, but its also a world where winning is the only way you get a job. We're not trying to get a guy from the Avalanche to come be our AGM. I'm not saying this guy, or even most guys, would do anything bad or untoward, but if I'm the GM why give anyone the chance? Though I guess you're better off keeping him around and limiting his input than letting him go to the other team before the draft and telling them everything, so maybe that's it. Idk it is just unprofessional to screw your current team. I wouldn't hire a guy who was willing to do that. You owe your current team for helping you even get the opportunity with your next. Quote
sabills Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 Idk it is just unprofessional to screw your current team. I wouldn't hire a guy who was willing to do that. You owe your current team for helping you even get the opportunity with your next. Absolutely unprofessional! I'm not saying its a good idea to do it. I'm just saying that there is a measure of risk involved on the GM's part in having an employee with split loyalties. Botterill was one thing; his duties were done and he had nothing to do, really, before moving over to his new team. This guy is going to run your draft and then leave the next day for an opponent. Heck, lets forget even PURPOSELY screwing your team. People are naturally going to be more lax their last day(s) on the job when they know they have something else lined up. He's going to be thinking about moving his family, thinking about his new duties with a new team in a new city, new bosses and employees. His mind is going to be split a bit. I just think if I was a GM and the guy who ran my draft came in and said "Hey, sabills, I have this opportunity on X team and I think I'm going to take it" my answer would be "Sounds great Randy, best of luck, if you could stick around for a week or so to prep me and our team and leave your notes we'd appreciate it." then give myself the next month to prep. Quote
Sabel79 Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 I'd be willing to be that whatever input he has to make for Pittsburgh's draft has already been made. It's more an issue of making sure he has no input on anything the Sabres do until afterwards. Quote
North Buffalo Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Absolutely unprofessional! I'm not saying its a good idea to do it. I'm just saying that there is a measure of risk involved on the GM's part in having an employee with split loyalties. Botterill was one thing; his duties were done and he had nothing to do, really, before moving over to his new team. This guy is going to run your draft and then leave the next day for an opponent. Heck, lets forget even PURPOSELY screwing your team. People are naturally going to be more lax their last day(s) on the job when they know they have something else lined up. He's going to be thinking about moving his family, thinking about his new duties with a new team in a new city, new bosses and employees. His mind is going to be split a bit. I just think if I was a GM and the guy who ran my draft came in and said "Hey, sabills, I have this opportunity on X team and I think I'm going to take it" my answer would be "Sounds great Randy, best of luck, if you could stick around for a week or so to prep me and our team and leave your notes we'd appreciate it." then give myself the next month to prep. Sounds way too reasonable, but this is the NHL. Depends maybe done with a hand shake and a nod to try and make good for both teams. Its a small circle, so likely both scenarios may work since the circumstances may be different and beneficial to both. Edited May 26, 2017 by North Buffalo Quote
LGR4GM Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 Or he's turning over duties already and will just advise his internal replacement through the draft because it's so close. Quote
dudacek Posted May 26, 2017 Report Posted May 26, 2017 I don't imagine it's too difficult to carry through the administrative portions of his job while delegating any critical decision-making to his immediate assistant or supervisor. Quote
bcsaberks Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Pierre LeBrun Verified account @PierreVLeBrun 19m19 minutes agoMore Pierre LeBrun Retweeted Mike Harrington Expectation is that will be Randy Sexton, who will leave Penguins to become Sabres AGM and GM of Rochester https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Sexton Quote
Derrico Posted June 23, 2017 Report Posted June 23, 2017 Sexy This is good. Not a fan of this hire. I was hoping they'd hire Chad Sexington. This is better. I also hear Cody Sexdgson was a candidate for this slot. This is bestest. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Posted June 24, 2017 Look for Steve Greeley, w/NYR this past season, as a potential Sabres front office hire-per @MurphysLaw74 who had the scoop on Randy Sexton. From Dave Davis Another hire for the front office. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2017 Report Posted June 24, 2017 What did Steve Greeeeeeeeleeeeey do for the NYR? Look for Steve Greeley, w/NYR this past season, as a potential Sabres front office hire-per @MurphysLaw74 who had the scoop on Randy Sexton.From Dave DavisAnother hire for the front office. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Posted June 24, 2017 What did Steve Greeeeeeeeleeeeey do for the NYR? Was the Assistant Director of Player Personnel for the Rags. He is 36 years old and was this Asst Coach at BU for two years. The second would have overlapped Jack's Time there. Wonder is he will be Director of Player Personnel here? Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2017 Author Report Posted June 24, 2017 Official per McKenzie Now that draft over, Randy Sexton will be leaving PIT management to work for BUF GM Jason Botterill. Sexton to be AGM in BUF, Rochester GM. Quote
sabills Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Officially official https://sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2017/06/26/sabres-hire-sexton-greeley-as-assistant-general-managers/ What did Steve Greeeeeeeeleeeeey do for the NYR? Greeley comes to the Sabres after two seasons as the assistant director of player personnel with the New York Rangers. Before his tenure with the Rangers, Greeley spent two seasons as an associate coach at Boston University, where he played a vital role in the school’s recruiting process. Greeley also spent seven seasons (2006-07 to 2012-13) in the scouting department for the Los Angeles Kings and served as a regional scout for the U.S. National Team Development Program from 2009 to 2012. Quote
WildCard Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Officially official https://sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2017/06/26/sabres-hire-sexton-greeley-as-assistant-general-managers/ Greeley comes to the Sabres after two seasons as the assistant director of player personnel with the New York Rangers. Before his tenure with the Rangers, Greeley spent two seasons as an associate coach at Boston University, where he played a vital role in the school’s recruiting process. Greeley also spent seven seasons (2006-07 to 2012-13) in the scouting department for the Los Angeles Kings and served as a regional scout for the U.S. National Team Development Program from 2009 to 2012. The Buffalo Sabres today announced that General Manager Jason Botterill has hired Randy Sexton and Steve Greeley to serve as the team’s assistant general managers. Sexton will also serve as general manager of the Rochester Americans (AHL). “Randy and I developed a positive working relationship during our time in Pittsburgh and I think his experience and insight will be advantageous for our front office,” said Sabres General Manager Jason Botterill. “In Steve, we have hired a talented hockey executive who will offer unique insight to our organization. They both have experience at all levels of the game and we think they will be valuable assets for the Buffalo Sabres moving forward.” https://sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2017/06/26/sabres-hire-sexton-greeley-as-assistant-general-managers/ Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 26, 2017 Report Posted June 26, 2017 Officially official https://sabresdigitalpressbox.com/2017/06/26/sabres-hire-sexton-greeley-as-assistant-general-managers/ Greeley comes to the Sabres after two seasons as the assistant director of player personnel with the New York Rangers. Before his tenure with the Rangers, Greeley spent two seasons as an associate coach at Boston University, where he played a vital role in the school’s recruiting process. Greeley also spent seven seasons (2006-07 to 2012-13) in the scouting department for the Los Angeles Kings and served as a regional scout for the U.S. National Team Development Program from 2009 to 2012. Mark Jakubowski, who has served as the Sabres’ assistant general manager since the 2014-15 season, will become the team’s vice president of hockey administration. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 26, 2017 Author Report Posted June 26, 2017 Sexton was on with ESPN Rochester for an interview they have interviewed one very qualified candidate for the Amerks. My bet is Chris Taylor. He also mentioned even though he was running the Pens Draft, he kept an eye on the Sabres and likes what they did Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 27, 2017 Report Posted June 27, 2017 There are exactly 100 days before the start of the Sabres season. JBOT and crew have a lot of work to do. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Posted June 27, 2017 Front Office Changes appear to be on the horizon, John Christiano moving on? Per Kris Baker Wishing Jon Christiano all the best in the next stage of his hockey journey. NHL people - a very smart hockey man is available. Quote
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