TrueBlueGED Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 No thank you, unless it's whether Ennis has more pts than Carrier. Bawk! Bawk bawk bawk bawk!!!
inkman Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Ennis, Moulson and Gorges need to be expansion drafted, bought out and sent down in whatever order makes sense.
Doohicksie Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Ennis is too small for a defensive shutdown guy... Gionta is smaller than Ennis and filled that role this year.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Gionta is smaller than Ennis and filled that role this year. Ennis is pathetic defensively. I don't think there's any precedent for a guy going from being as bad as he is to useful in a shutdown role. And halfway (or more) through his career? I'm calling no F'n way on that one.
Huckleberry Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 I want kane - Samson - Bailey as our 3rd line. They didn't play much together but I liked what I saw when they did.
Doohicksie Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Ennis is pathetic defensively. I don't think there's any precedent for a guy going from being as bad as he is to useful in a shutdown role. And halfway (or more) through his career? I'm calling no F'n way on that one. He's got the basic hockey skills to do it, if he focuses on it. He needs to either get his old quickness back or find another role, or he'll be out of the league by the time he's 30.
dudacek Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) I feel like I'm the only one who noticed Bailey being called up over baptiste repeatedly last year.Pegula noticed, watched him play, watched Baptiste play and fired Murray. ???? Seriously, they are similar level prospects. Wasn't Baptiste called up once and Bailey twice? Edited April 25, 2017 by dudacek
TrueBlueGED Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 He's got the basic hockey skills to do it, if he focuses on it. He needs to either get his old quickness back or find another role, or he'll be out of the league by the time he's 30. I don't believe this is true. I don't think he has the awareness or vision for it.
LGR4GM Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Baptiste played 14 games and Bailey 32. I also noted they had the same number of NHL points. It just seems odd that we are penciling Baptiste in higher than Bailey when right now we don't know who will be better. ROR - Eichel - Ennis Kane - Reinhart - Okposo Foligno - Larsson - Baptiste/Bailey Moulson/Zemgus - Rodriguez - Carrier/Nylander?
dudacek Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 I don't think Sabrespace is generally pegging Baptiste higher than Bailey. That's reading way too much in a handful of scattered roster projections.
nfreeman Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Doohickie, you know we love ya, but this is like when Liger predicted that Robyn Regehr was going to become a force on the power play.
LGR4GM Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Doohickie, you know we love ya, but this is like when Liger predicted that Robyn Regehr was going to become a force on the power play. And that is why I won't predict Baptiste or Bailey as a force on anything next year. :flirt:
Randall Flagg Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Baptiste played 14 games and Bailey 32. I also noted they had the same number of NHL points. It just seems odd that we are penciling Baptiste in higher than Bailey when right now we don't know who will be better. ROR - Eichel - Ennis Kane - Reinhart - Okposo Foligno - Larsson - Baptiste/Bailey Moulson/Zemgus - Rodriguez - Carrier/Nylander? In my view, just because one is with Jack and the other is written two lines below with Sam, that doesn't mean one is higher on the roster depth chart. I'm just looking at possible stylistic fits. I want Carrier with ROR for the same reason, even if Kane is playing "lower in the lineup" because of it
dudacek Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Both Baptiste and Bailey(and Carrier) were more effective then Moulson and Ennis last year. There is no reason to expect that to change this year.
Doohicksie Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Pegula noticed, watched him play, watched Baptiste play and fired Murray. Seriously, they are similar level prospects. Wasn't Baptiste called up once and Bailey twice? And as I recall, Baptiste suffered an injury which kept him out of the Sabres lineup. Doohickie, you know we love ya, but this is like when Liger predicted that Robyn Regehr was going to become a force on the power play. I know you don't love me, but figure a little flattery before the knife goes in might make it hurt less. I see Ennis as useless: He's a high speed scoring forward who's lost his speed and without it his scoring ability is gone. I'm just saying that if I were him, I'd be trying to figure out how to make myself useful. I could be wrong and with some off-season rest he'll come back and be the Ennis of old, but I'm not holding my breath. I think the rest of the hockey world can see that too. So we're stuck with him for two more years. We could either buy him out or try to get something useful out of him. He no longer has flat out speed but he does have maneuverability and quickness; he could dog other players. If I'm a new coach coming in, he's not in my top 6. So what value does he hold in a bottom six? (Moulson, incidentally, is same type of problem). Even if they're "kind of" top 6 players due to smarts/experience/seniority, I don't want them on my top 6 if they're dragging it down; I'd rather let the youth have an opportunity to grow. Both Baptiste and Bailey(and Carrier) were more effective then Moulson and Ennis last year. There is no reason to expect that to change this year. Yes. This. Edited April 25, 2017 by Doohickie
TrueBlueGED Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Doohickie, you know we love ya, but this is like when Liger predicted that Robyn Regehr was going to become a force on the power play. I was not aware of this particular prediction. Holy smokes Liger! :lol: :p
LGR4GM Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 I was not aware of this particular prediction. Holy smokes Liger! :lol: :P I don't remember it but I'll trust nfreeman on this one.
Crusader1969 Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 I'm one of those guys who isn't a fan of designating guys as #1 or #2 etc. I think this team's game plan should be built around its three excellent centres and it's lineup designed around chemistry, balance and the ability to give one of those centres a significant mismatch. It's also hope we will see our new coach give at least two and hopefully more of our young wingers a prime time gig at more than nine minutes a game. Agreed 3 balanced lines that can score is what you want. ROR, Eichel and Reinhart are your 3 centres. Larrson or Girgs on the 4th line.
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 25, 2017 Author Report Posted April 25, 2017 Agreed 3 balanced lines that can score is what you want. ROR, Eichel and Reinhart are your 3 centres. Larrson or Girgs on the 4th line. I agree on the first 3, but unless Larsson and Big Z can learn to win a draw, it's time to go out and get a guy who can win a defensive zone faceoff. Brian Boyle and Jay Beagle head my list.
Winston Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Any thoughts about or interest in Michael Del Zotto? Maybe a second pairing guy if we could get him on a 2-3 year deal??
I-90 W Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Any thoughts about or interest in Michael Del Zotto? Maybe a second pairing guy if we could get him on a 2-3 year deal?? Rangers got rid of him, and now the flyers probably want to as well. He was a frequent healthy scratch and a liability. He seems pretty inconsistent.
Randall Flagg Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Since it was pointed out elsewhere, I'd like to see ROR get 5v5 ice time with Jack this coming season, to make up for the fact that the previous two years he got more 5v5 time with Deslauriers than with Jack.
TrueBlueGED Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 Since it was pointed out elsewhere, I'd like to see ROR get 5v5 ice time with Jack this coming season, to make up for the fact that the previous two years he got more 5v5 time with Deslauriers than with Jack. Would do wonders for Jack in the defensive zone, that's for sure.
LGR4GM Posted April 25, 2017 Report Posted April 25, 2017 I agree on the first 3, but unless Larsson and Big Z can learn to win a draw, it's time to go out and get a guy who can win a defensive zone faceoff. Brian Boyle and Jay Beagle head my list. Larsson was at 49% and won 223 and lost 233 draws. Not like he is terrible or something and not a good reason to go get Jay Beagle.
DarthEbriate Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I need an experienced 4th line, a dynamite top line with almost godlike powers, a 2nd line that is always a threat whenever they get in the offensive zone... A top D-pairing with range and aggression and cockiness. A 2nd D that will always keep me entertained and has two very complimentary players. And a goalie who knows a thing or two about being shot at and not giving up rebounds. Princess Leia – Darth Vader – Ben Kenobi Biggs Darklighter – Luke Skywalker – Wedge Antilles Jek Porkins – Garven Dreis – Dutch Vander Owen Lars – Grand Moff Tarkin – Aunt Beru Lars Han Solo – Chewbacca R2-D2 – C-3PO Dr. Evazan – Ponda Baba Greedo Lt. Pol Treidum Yup. That'll do.
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