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  1. 1. Who is your preference?

    • Maciver
      2
    • Drury
      1
    • Lombardi
      1
    • Dubas
      12
    • Fenton
      29
    • Dudley
      11
    • Futa
      2
    • Gilman
      0
    • Botterill
      28
    • Brisebois
      1
    • Regier
      1
    • Sabertooth
      4
    • Pegula
      1
    • Someone on SabreSpace
      9
    • Guerin
      1

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Really wish a decision would come swoon though. We waited so long for word on Byslma yet somehow now that it's happened, this period has been even worse

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Not interviewing Lombardi would seem to be on True's expectation of the Richards & Voynov sagas not sitting well w/ the owners.

I'm sure that is a huge factor.  Is this a sign that Kane will be traded?

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I don't get a couple things about the Drury thing. The stories say the NYR told Drury the Sabres wanted to interview him and he said no because of domestic and experience issues. 

1) Why not take the interview?  If you (Drury) are trying to learn about being a GM, how does it hurt to listen?  He has valid reasons for not talking the job, but wouldn't it have been better to deliver those in person or on the phone directly? 

2) Who told the media that he turned down the interview?  Drury? the NYR? the Sabres?  Why was it in anyone's interest to give this tidbit to the media?

 

Now Drury looks like a DB, and the Sabres look like idiots and beggars.   

 

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That makes much more sense!  So the only DB's here are the NYR for altering the media.

 

Could be as simple as, "Hey Chris, the Sabres are asking to interview you for GM. You interested?" Some combination of "no, screw Buffalo" "not ready" and "I want to make the Rangers a dynasty!" "OK, Chris, we'll just deny the request. We see big things for you here anyway!"

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Guerin and Conroy don't interest me.

 

Zito, Futa, Fenton and Botterill seem like the best candidates.

 

I'd love for Fenton to bring Nashville philosophy to Buffalo.

His AHL and Anaheim success is just as attractive, as is him being a big part of Team NA's roster construction this summer.
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Guerin and Conroy don't interest me.

 

Zito, Futa, Fenton and Botterill seem like the best candidates.  

 

I'd love for Fenton to bring Nashville philosophy to Buffalo.

 

Serious question:  how much credit should Fenton get for Nashville's deep, talented blueline?  Didn't they keep drafting BPAs who happened to be defensemen, most of whom developed really well?

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Serious question:  how much credit should Fenton get for Nashville's deep, talented blueline?  Didn't they keep drafting BPAs who happened to be defensemen, most of whom developed really well?

We don't know. Same goes for every guy on this list.

 

Whoever is responsible, Nashville has been pretty steady with the drafting, developing and not trading away futures model.

(Something Murray had underway in Buffalo: 25 picks in 3 years, with another nine coming this year)

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We don't know. Same goes for every guy on this list.

 

Whoever is responsible, Nashville has been pretty steady with the drafting, developing and not trading away futures model.

(Something Murray had underway in Buffalo: 25 picks in 3 years, with another nine coming this year)

They also were able to make a trade or teo for under performing guys that turned their careers around, something you need to happen occasionally

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Serious question:  how much credit should Fenton get for Nashville's deep, talented blueline?  Didn't they keep drafting BPAs who happened to be defensemen, most of whom developed really well?

 

Nashville has a set philosophy of drafting and developing D.  Even with the great group they have now and trading away Jones, they still have studs Fabbro, Girard and Carrier coming soon, plus Doughterty.  The also focus on development and making hard salary and contract choices to keep their team competitive and on budget.  

 

Also no such thing as BPA.  It's a great media term, but each team makes and uses their own list of players based on their own criteria.  What "BPA" for one team is not "BPA" for another.  Nash (Fenton and Poile) clearly take position and organization depth into account when creating their draft list and just as clearly GMTM didn't.   Fenton and the staff should get huge credit for drafting and developing players.  Other then the one year their got Jones @ 4, their best position was 11th in 2014 & 2009.  In three of the last 5 years they haven't even had a 1st rd pick, but they keep finding players.  FYI the pick they got from us for Vesey, Rem Pitlick has 32 pts in 36 games @ Minn.

 

Contrast that with the Sabres.  For two successive administrations in Buffalo we have consistently failed in the drafting and development of talent.  Sure we have found some serviceable players, like Foligno, but other then top 8 picks, Eichel, Risto, and Reinhart, when is the last time we got a player of the quality of Josi out of the 2nd rd or Arvidsson, Ekholm or Craig Smith in the 4th rd? 

 

Look at our track record from 2009 to 2013

Kassian - traded for CoHo, now a depth player in Edm

Pysyk - Traded to Fla for Kulikov, now a depth player in Fla (likely to be exposed in the expansion draft)

Armia - traded to Wpg, 3rd line winger for the Jets, Career hi 10 goals last season

Grigorenko - traded to Colo, 3rd line forward for the Avs, Career hi 10 goals last season

Girgensons - still a Sabre, but career already at the crossroads in buffalo. 16 pts last season

dudacek Hall of Famer

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Here's something interesting about Nashville:

Since 2010 they've drafted exactly four players who have played 100 NHL games:

First-round 2010 bust Austin Watson, slow-burning 2012 second-rounder Colton Scissons, lucky 2014 4th-rounder Viktor Arvidsson and the excellent (traded in a deal that will come back to haunt them) Seth Jones - the only defenceman in the bunch.

 

Remove Jones from the equation and their last seven drafts combined have given them 66 games on the blueline - 64 of those from 2010 6th rounder Anthony Bitetto.

 

In that span, the Sabres have picked 9 100-gamers, four of them on defence.

Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe, Armia and Pysyk.

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Here's something interesting about Nashville:

Since 2010 they've drafted exactly four players who have played 100 NHL games:

First-round 2010 bust Austin Watson, slow-burning 2012 second-rounder Colton Scissons, lucky 2014 4th-rounder Viktor Arvidsson and the excellent (traded in a deal that will come back to haunt them) Seth Jones - the only defenceman in the bunch.

 

Remove Jones from the equation and their last seven drafts combined have given them 66 games on the blueline - 64 of those from 2010 6th rounder Anthony Bitetto.

 

In that span, the Sabres have picked 9 100-gamers, four of them on defence.

Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe, Armia and Pysyk.

Bravo.  Excellent analysis.

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Here's something interesting about Nashville:

Since 2010 they've drafted exactly four players who have played 100 NHL games:

First-round 2010 bust Austin Watson, slow-burning 2012 second-rounder Colton Scissons, lucky 2014 4th-rounder Viktor Arvidsson and the excellent (traded in a deal that will come back to haunt them) Seth Jones - the only defenceman in the bunch.

 

Remove Jones from the equation and their last seven drafts combined have given them 66 games on the blueline - 64 of those from 2010 6th rounder Anthony Bitetto.

 

In that span, the Sabres have picked 9 100-gamers, four of them on defence.

Eichel, Reinhart, Ristolainen, Zadorov, Grigorenko, Girgensons, McCabe, Armia and Pysyk.

 

Someone help GA pick up the pieces.

Randall Flagg Hall of Famer

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We don't know. Same goes for every guy on this list.

 

Whoever is responsible, Nashville has been pretty steady with the drafting, developing and not trading away futures model.

(Something Murray had underway in Buffalo: 25 picks in 3 years, with another nine coming this year)

Interestingly, Nashville built this core via trade: 

 

Fisher, Johansen, Subban, Neal, Forsberg, Jarnkrok

 

3rd line Center, 1st line Center, 1D, 1LW, 1RW, 3W.

 

While you're statement is very much correct, they've somehow simultaneously created the nucleus of their team through trade. Very intriguing front office. 

dudacek Hall of Famer

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Interestingly, Nashville built this core via trade:

Fisher, Johansen, Subban, Neal, Forsberg, Jarnkrok

 

3rd line Center, 1st line Center, 1D, 1LW, 1RW, 3W.

While you're statement is very much correct, they've somehow simultaneously created the nucleus of their team through trade. Very intriguing front office.

 

And very good trades for the most part.

In retrospect, the strength of their team is cap management and the pro scouting department.

Is that Fenton?

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