Tim Murray and Dan Byslma Have Been Fired

[LGR4GM]

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[Meathead]

well i figured tim was safe but apparently terry didnt think he was good enough

 

i wonder who he has in mind for each job

 

id love to see ruff back in bflo. but who would the gm be?

[SDS]

Perhaps I have mistakenly placed more faith in GMTM than he deserves, but I don't see him falling on his sword for Bylsma. He knew there were issues and said as much. He's a smart hockey man. I'm waiting for an alternative explanation.

[WildCard]

Perhaps I have mistakenly placed more faith in GMTM than he deserves, but I don't see him falling on his sword for Bylsma. He knew there were issues and said as much. He's a smart hockey man. I'm waiting for an alternative explanation.

Meddling

 

The only possible reason I'm happy for Murray being gone would be if he insisted on Byslma. That shows me he can't evaluate coaches

Edited April 20, 2017 by WildCard

[sabills]

Does this affect our chances with Antipin?

Asking the important questions.

[CallawaySabres]

Thank God we have the Bills and Sabres in Buffalo still..and thank you Pegulas for all you have done reviving Buffalo.......BUT you are awful sports owners. I pray to God that they have no input on GM or coach hires but you know that will not be the case.

[nucci]

Wonder what will happen to assistants, and Lambert in Rochester.

New GM....all new everybody....it's Buffalo...coaches and GMs get 2-3 years.........if only we had a rich owner to spend money..................

[darksabre]

I think this very much supports my musings on GMTM failing to take a hands-on enough approach with the team. He made the mistake of giving DDB too much space and it made a huge mess. Now he's paying the price for it. 

[pastajoe]

Maybe they want to try the Leafs model and hire a president with hockey knowledge like Shanahan.  Ralph Krueger?

 

Pegula to meet with media at 10am Friday.

Edited April 20, 2017 by pastajoe

[Taro T]

Looks like it'll be Lombardi. My preference was to have him as President of Hockey while retaining Murray.

 

BUT, if Murray was full on board the "Bylsma stays another year train," I'm ok w/ him leaving too.

 

Hope they both land on their feet. Preferably w/ Murray in the West and Bylsma in the Adams. ;)

[nucci]

So, what are we thinking here?  GM Lindy Ruff, HC Bob Boughner?

What experience does Ruff have in being a GM?

[SDS]

Meddling

 

The only possible reason I'm happy for Murray being gone would be if he insisted on Byslma. That shows me he can't evaluate coaches

 

I would be more inclined to believe they are watching Toronto, Edmonton and Calgary in the playoffs and said we aren't good enough under GMTM.

[Eleven]

Holy .

[thewookie1]

I want nothing to do with Lombardi, he's worse than GMTM was with contracts. Not to mention the whole Mike Richards scandal.

[R_Dudley]

GTFO, wow now that's a clean house, Flush twice to make sure it all goes down... 

 

But what now, who is making the next choice(s), inquiring minds want need to know!

[Jacque Richard]

The off-season is more interesting with the Sabres and the bills

[nucci]

None, but there are only so many ways for Terry to reach into the way back machine.

Bills and Sabres will never makes the playoffs again if we keep starting over every 2 years. Pegula's not looking too sharp as owners

[Jacque Richard]

So, what are we thinking here? GM Lindy Ruff, HC Bob Boughner?

Might be ok with that

Edited April 20, 2017 by Jacque Richard

[LTS]

I don't agree with Murray getting the boot.  Can't control it however.  It certainly creates a bigger gap to overcome for me to want to watch this team next year.

 

The next move is the owners now.  Pegula has to do something that says to me he knows what he's doing.  He has to bring in someone who the players can respect.  The talent and contracts are set up well on the team.

 

This could get good or it could get real bad real fast.

[TrueBlueGED]

So, is there any chance I was close to the mark with this?

 

What's the worst case scenario here, that it's as bad as it looks *and* Murray was basically clueless on how bad it has been? For instance, what if Murray was being 100% honest during his presser when he said to that point he had not thought about firing Bylsma? In this case, his exit interview with Jack would have hit him like a ton of bricks (the room, the system, the...contract?). Would help explain the progression of the presser from off kilter to airing the laundry with surprising candidness. Furthermore, what if Murray isn't as well schooled on hockey systems and whatnot as we'd (perhaps incorrectly) expect a GM to be, such that he didn't "get" how his pieces were a bad fit for Bylsma's approach?

 

That's basically the doomsday scenario, right? You have a bad/clueless/poor fit at head coach with a GM blissfully unaware of the gravity of the problems. If true, I don't expect any kind of announcement today, as I expect Pegula has some thinking to do. He may well be mulling Murray's fate.

 

Again, that's worst case. But if, and stressing if, it's somewhat accurate...a full sweep makes sense, right?

[nucci]

Might be ok with that

Really? Why?

[freester]

I think Whaley gets fired after the draft

[Jerry Jabber]

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Constant turmoil with the Bills and Sabres. The passionate fans of Western New York deserve so much better.

[Jacque Richard]

Bills and Sabres will never makes the playoffs again if we keep starting over every 2 years. Pegula's not looking too sharp as owners[/quote

Wrong it's a cluster there. Why hang on to these folks

Really? Why?

No ruff behind the box

[Eleven]

Perhaps I have mistakenly placed more faith in GMTM than he deserves, but I don't see him falling on his sword for Bylsma. He knew there were issues and said as much. He's a smart hockey man. I'm waiting for an alternative explanation.

 

Me too.