Brawndo Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Translation... Shattenkirk is using BUF to up the bidding. No doubt Free Agency Update from Friedman http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agency-buzz-rumblings-around-league/ Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Am I nuts for thinking that Ehrhoff was good here? Edited June 29, 2017 by Randall Flagg Quote
Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Am I nuts for thinking that Ehrhoff was good here?He was average, from my eye test, he was hyped up wayyyyyyyy too much and I think failed due to our expectations Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Am I nuts for thinking that Ehrhoff was good here? No, you're not--he was quite good. But, for reasons I continue to fail to understand, I think a lot of people got hung up on the cash at the front end of the contract and expected a franchise defenseman, which he was not. He also played a style that plenty of fans dislike, and I think that played into it. Quote
Sabel79 Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Am I nuts for thinking that Ehrhoff was good here? No. I'd argue that he was worth the contract, until the contract was made radioactive in retroactive fashion by cap recapture. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 No, you're not--he was quite good. But, for reasons I continue to fail to understand, I think a lot of people got hung up on the cash at the front end of the contract and expected a franchise defenseman, which he was not. He also played a style that plenty of fans dislike, and I think that played into it. Wasn't it only a 4 million dollar cap hit, too? I'd murder someone to get an Ehrhoff level defenseman at this cap's equivalent of $4 mil then. Quote
ubkev Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 No, you're not--he was quite good. But, for reasons I continue to fail to understand, I think a lot of people got hung up on the cash at the front end of the contract and expected a franchise defenseman, which he was not. He also played a style that plenty of fans dislike, and I think that played into it. He came at a time when the bone crushing defenseman was still a thing that people wanted. Remember all the love "the tunnel of death" got when Pegula recruited him? Man, was he old and slow. Ehrhoff was just fine as a player for us. The forwards underperformed and the rest of the D sucked. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Hard to be a good defender when you're passing the puck to Leino and Cy Hgsn Quote
darksabre Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 No, you're not--he was quite good. But, for reasons I continue to fail to understand, I think a lot of people got hung up on the cash at the front end of the contract and expected a franchise defenseman, which he was not. He also played a style that plenty of fans dislike, and I think that played into it. Ehrhoff was good, he just wasn't consequential in the overall scope of things. Quote
dudacek Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Ehrhoff in his prime is exactly what this team needs now. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 From Larry Brooks Expect Devils to be among most serious and aggressive bidders for Shattenkirk. And that's all she wrote.. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 From Larry Brooks Expect Devils to be among most serious and aggressive bidders for Shattenkirk. And that's all she wrote.. Fine by me, I'd rather sign Stone, Buchter and Nesterov. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Anyone interested in Sam Gagner for 3rd line center? Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 From Larry Brooks Expect Devils to be among most serious and aggressive bidders for Shattenkirk. And that's all she wrote.. Why is that all she wrote? Jersey has a lot more work to do than we do. They have like 3 legitimate pieces there that aren't going to be useless/interchangeable in the next 3 years. Quote
3putt Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Anyone interested in Sam Gagner for 3rd line center? No. Quote
DarthEbriate Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) Am I nuts for thinking that Ehrhoff was good here? Not at all. He was solid here, but ended up miscast as the 1 (because Myers didn't pan out as a 1-2) and Ehrhoff couldn't handle that load. That impacted his overall game including the PP. Then we bought him out and replaced him with... Meszaros, Benoit, and Gorges. Cash floor, depth, and rebuild leadership, respectively. In comparison, those three made Ehrhoff look amazing. Edited June 29, 2017 by DarthEbriate Quote
dudacek Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 The latest from Friedman: Girardi to Tampa (Yes!) and Daley to Detroit (Darn!) very nearly done. Sabres the predicted destination for Johnson and we have gone after Shattenkirk as Dallas and the Rangers bow out. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agency-buzz-rumblings-around-league/ Quote
Weave Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Ehrhoff was good, he just wasn't consequential in the overall scope of things. Pretty much this. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 29, 2017 Report Posted June 29, 2017 Jaromir JagrVerified account @68Jagr 1h1 hour agoMore Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On the contrary,I'm trying to call them,and no ones picking up. Distinct possibility of trolling aside....Jagr, anyone? Quote
Thorner Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Marner and Nylander maybe.... but Matthews? He's in his prime right now, this is the best Matthews we'll ever see. Matthews will likely never again score as many goals in a game as he did in his first. He peaked already :p Imagine if we got Shattenkirk and, say, Scandella, while being able to dump Bogo? McCabe-Risto Scandella-Shattenkirk Beaulieu-Antipin Or some permutation thereof. It's not Nashville's top-4, but it'd be a quantum leap over what we iced last season. *searches for new pants* I need this to happen. Interested to know what people in the re-sign Kane camp think about throwing a huge deal at Shattenkirk I want to sign Kane. I'd rather sign Shatter. Quote
ubkev Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Jaromir JagrVerified account @68Jagr 1h1 hour ago More Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On the contrary,I'm trying to call them,and no ones picking up. Distinct possibility of trolling aside....Jagr, anyone? I would instantly buy a Jagr jersey. Though, I suspect it would get the same reaction at a randy moss 9ers jersey. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Why is that all she wrote? Jersey has a lot more work to do than we do. They have like 3 legitimate pieces there that aren't going to be useless/interchangeable in the next 3 years. I agree on the fact Buffalo is closer, but he is from New Rochelle and expressed interest in playing near home. LeBrun mentioned the Devils would be a fit. Plus as Thomas Vanek, mentioned although he knows how great it is to play here not everyone shares the same opinion. That's slowly changing, Okposo, but replacing the Front Office and Coaching Staff can be perceived as dysfunctional, even though it was for best. My hunch is he doesn't sign with Buffalo Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Jaromir JagrVerified account @68Jagr 1h1 hour ago More Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On the contrary,I'm trying to call them,and no ones picking up. Distinct possibility of trolling aside....Jagr, anyone? Sure Jagr or Vanek on a 1 year deal cheap would be worth it Quote
3putt Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 Jaromir JagrVerified account @68Jagr 1h1 hour ago More Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On the contrary,I'm trying to call them,and no ones picking up. Distinct possibility of trolling aside....Jagr, anyone? I'm in. You want to show any young guy what HOFers do, Jagr or Hossa would be your best live specimens. Quote
Robviously Posted June 30, 2017 Report Posted June 30, 2017 (edited) Would love to have Jagr on a 1-year deal next year. Vanek too. Edited June 30, 2017 by Robviously Quote
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