LGR4GM Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 Sutter and the LA model I think is outdated. I could be wrong about this. Let's not focus so much on Sutter but more on the model the Kings have used. They typically like larger players who are decent skaters. They prefer to be a very physical team. They do a lot of chipping and forechecking. Now I think that this was great for the 4 year span of 2010-2014. The league couldn't deal with it and they won. The reason I do not think it works as well now is because of the of the evolution of the NHL. In 2005 when the NHL came back it was a faster, more skating focused league. Large pilon defenders were obsolete and continue to be so. Now for the first 10 years there was a integration of the new NHL player. Fast, quick thinking, good skating. Now good skating isn't just speed, it is also agility, lateral movement, and quickness. As we roll forward into 2017 this means that the players starting to play in 2005 and who learned to be good skaters and such are entering the league in higher and higher numbers. We see it all the time. How many top draft picks can't skate? Reinhart has spent years working on his and to be honest he isn't that bad. Guhle is good in part because of his skating. So where am I going with this? The LA model I think won't be as effective going forward because of the speed of the game as it has now come to be played. Defenders are becoming faster and more agile. Forwards duck out of those big hits more often than not. That is why I wouldn't want the kings system here. Chipping the puck in, battling to get it, and winning the battle because you have big power wingers is not as effective as say the Chicago or Pittsburgh model. Thoughts? I would love to hear counter arguments to this. Quote
Eleven Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 I'm trying to think of the last time a team built like that made it to the finals. I'll bet it was within the last year. Quote
CallawaySabres Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 Multiple superstars and puck moving D is how you win the Cup. We have 1 of each and a loooong way to go Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 11, 2017 Author Report Posted April 11, 2017 I'm trying to think of the last time a team built like that made it to the finals. I'll bet it was within the last year. Making the finals isn't good enough for me. Either you won it or you didn't. I don't think the SJ Sharks are in that mold however. Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 Making the finals isn't good enough for me. Either you won it or you didn't. I don't think the SJ Sharks are in that mold however. You're not Liger. You're Schrödinger's cat. Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 11, 2017 Author Report Posted April 11, 2017 You're not Liger. You're Schrödinger's cat. Could be... or I could not be. Quote
Doohicksie Posted April 11, 2017 Report Posted April 11, 2017 Exactly. Well, approximately. Let me ask Heisenberg. Maybe he knows. Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 11, 2017 Author Report Posted April 11, 2017 Someone else posted this already but http://www.cbc.ca/sports/olympics/nhl-ioc-olympics-1.4054346 "When asked point blank in Helsinki about the NHL's involvement in South Korea, IOC president Thomas Bach passed the buck to Rene Fasel and the International Ice Hockey Federation. "That is between the federation and the NHL. We are happy to accommodate a positive result at any given time," Bach shrugged. "The international federation has committed itself to take over the costs for travel and insurance of the players. This is what happened in the last five Olympic Games, so I hope that this time it works." It didn't work, because the NHL, its conditions met, refused to kiss the ring of the IOC. They won't shut down the league and interrupt the schedule because, they say, it's a hardship for the league and its owners." Quote
That Aud Smell Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 Good effin thread here. I have nothing to contribute at this time. Multiple superstars and puck moving D is how you win the Cup. We have 1 of each and a loooong way to go But this. Quote
Taro T Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 I'm trying to think of the last time a team built like that made it to the finals. I'll bet it was within the last year. & pretty sure one of those won it 3 years ago as well. ;) Quote
WildCard Posted April 12, 2017 Report Posted April 12, 2017 Multiple superstars and puck moving D is how you win the Cup. We have 1 of each and a loooong way to go And a good head coach. The last poor one to win it? Take a guess... Quote
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