TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 No, but 5 of those bad moves do. 10 makes for a bad team for a long time. Falling in love with your own players and over paying them is not good. I would not have paid Gillislee the $4 million, but I'd have absolutely offered the 2nd round tender. Part of this is I don't trust McCoy to be fully healthy--I expect a tweaked hamstring to limit him for a couple of games. And with how reliant we are on the run game, I think it makes some sense to have a higher tier backup. Quote
woods-racer Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I have a hard time believing this situation comes up a lot WGR just went through an exercise like that on their morning show Monday or Tuesday. It was surprising the amount of Bills players that where in the situation of over paying to keep. Quote
WildCard Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Posted April 26, 2017 I also can't defend Whaley as making this a smart cap move, given the incredible amount of FA we had in 1 year and couldn't pay because he sucks at contracts. Quote
woods-racer Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) I would not have paid Gillislee the $4 million, but I'd have absolutely offered the 2nd round tender. Part of this is I don't trust McCoy to be fully healthy--I expect a tweaked hamstring to limit him for a couple of games. And with how reliant we are on the run game, I think it makes some sense to have a higher tier backup. And you are the complete opposite model from the Pats. Over spending on money and picks for running backs to hopefully accomplish a wildcard spot. Welcome to groundhog day for the rest of the AFC East teams not in N.E. that have gone this route. Edited April 26, 2017 by Woods-Racer Quote
TheAud Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) I would not have paid Gillislee the $4 million, but I'd have absolutely offered the 2nd round tender. Part of this is I don't trust McCoy to be fully healthy--I expect a tweaked hamstring to limit him for a couple of games. And with how reliant we are on the run game, I think it makes some sense to have a higher tier backup. This is where I'm at as well. My earlier point is that the 5th round tender and not matching is not a terrible move at face value, like say giving up a 1st and 4th to move up a few slots to draft Watkins or giving McCoy a massive extension when he is already under contract, but it's not the play I'd have made. 2nd round tender at $2M and no offer sheet comes in. Edited April 26, 2017 by Sakman Quote
NNYSABRESMAN Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Sully and Bucky are the worst, always negative and on the attack, Paul Hamilton should go by the Surname Mr. Obvious Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 And you are the complete opposite model from the Pats. Over spending on money and picks for running backs to hopefully accomplish a wildcard spot. Welcome to groundhog day for the rest of the AFC East teams not in N.E. that have gone this route. Au contraire! I'd not have spent on bringing in Mike Tolbert, as the Bills did. Use that money on the 2nd round tender to Gillislee. I'd have franchised Gilmore, let Taylor walk, and taken a QB at 10. Hell, even with Taylor here, I'm still all-in on a QB at 10. I just don't think 900k difference is some sort of inefficient investment in RB depth when you're so dependent upon production from that position. Ending the drought for the sake of ending doesn't do much for me if we're likely to just bow out in round 1. "We can't take a QB because we need an impact player for this season" is just whatever. Get the QB, join the modern NFL. Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Au contraire! I'd not have spent on bringing in Mike Tolbert, as the Bills did. Use that money on the 2nd round tender to Gillislee. I'd have franchised Gilmore, let Taylor walk, and taken a QB at 10. Hell, even with Taylor here, I'm still all-in on a QB at 10. I just don't think 900k difference is some sort of inefficient investment in RB depth when you're so dependent upon production from that position. Ending the drought for the sake of ending doesn't do much for me if we're likely to just bow out in round 1. "We can't take a QB because we need an impact player for this season" is just whatever. Get the QB, join the modern NFL. This QB class isn't great. Drafting a QB in the 1st just to draft a QB is how we got EJ freaking Manuel. We need to start drafting a QB every year, but it doesn't have to be in the 1st unless there is one there that is worth it. There could be this year but it isn't a "WE HAVE TO TAKE A QB AT 10!!!!!!!!!!!" type of thing. Quote
Sabel79 Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 This Bills stuff leaking outside of the clearly marked and easily accessible places where Bills stuff belongs is making me sad. :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) This QB class isn't great. Drafting a QB in the 1st just to draft a QB is how we got EJ freaking Manuel. We need to start drafting a QB every year, but it doesn't have to be in the 1st unless there is one there that is worth it. There could be this year but it isn't a "WE HAVE TO TAKE A QB AT 10!!!!!!!!!!!" type of thing. I legitimately like this QB class. Edited April 26, 2017 by TrueBlueGED Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I legimitely like this QB class. That's fine. I didn't mean to imply there was nothing to like, just that it isn't a great class, it is mediocre and lacks depth for sure. It really depends on which QB you like and who is there at 10. So which QB do you like? Quote
WildCard Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Posted April 26, 2017 Alright outta here with the Bills talk you jamboys Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 That's fine. I didn't mean to imply there was nothing to like, just that it isn't a great class, it is mediocre and lacks depth for sure. It really depends on which QB you like and who is there at 10. So which QB do you like? Kizer. I'd put Mahomes > Watson > Trubisky as the next three. Happy with any of the four at 10. There's no surefire superstar, but I think each has a lot to like and a couple have the potential to hit it big. This is a better class than last year when guys went 1-2. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I want to nominate Bill Hoppe. I used to follow him on twitter, but he was so political I had to drop him. If you a hockey writer tweet most about hockey news, I don't give a sh.... about you politics. Quote
darksabre Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I want to nominate Bill Hoppe. I used to follow him on twitter, but he was so political I had to drop him. If you a hockey writer tweet most about hockey news, I don't give a sh.... about you politics. Since when is Bill Hoppe political? Quote
MattPie Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I want to nominate Bill Hoppe. I used to follow him on twitter, but he was so political I had to drop him. If you a hockey writer tweet most about hockey news, I don't give a sh.... about you politics. It might work out better if you follow https://twitter.com/OleanTHsportsinstead of the person's personal account. That being said, I just scrolled through his feed and it looked at least 95% hockey. Quote
WildCard Posted April 26, 2017 Author Report Posted April 26, 2017 I'll be honest, I don't even know who Sullivan is. Never read anything by him Quote
That Aud Smell Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Since when is Bill Hoppe political? I follow him. Can't recall a single political Tweet from him. Quote
SDS Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 I follow him. Can't recall a single political Tweet from him. He retweets things. Nothing all that controversial, IMO. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 My bad, the @billhoppenhl twitter account was not the one I was following! Quote
darksabre Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 My bad, the @billhoppenhl twitter account was not the one I was following! Who the heck were you following? Some random other guy named Bill Hoppe? :lol: Quote
That Aud Smell Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Who the heck were you following? Some random other guy named Bill Hoppe? :lol: This amuses me greatly Quote
SDS Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Correction. Bill doesn't retweet political posts, he "likes" them and they show up on your feed anyway. https://twitter.com/markagee/status/855892132904685569 Is an example of a liked tweet. Quote
Eleven Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 My bad, the @billhoppenhl twitter account was not the one I was following! That is too funny. He's a good hockey writer. Quote
Guest Posted April 26, 2017 Report Posted April 26, 2017 Correction. Bill doesn't retweet political posts, he "likes" them and they show up on your feed anyway. https://twitter.com/markagee/status/855892132904685569 Is an example of a liked tweet. Maybe, I did have the right account, but all his political likes kept showing in my feed. Interesting. Once you unfollow someone, all their posts and likes disappear from you feed. Quote
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