OT Andrew Peters Involved in Incident

[inkman]

The French speaking Marty Biron and rivet show now.

this appears to be a failed attempt at cultural bias and humor. You only succeeded at one.

 

Like rob ray?

if it wasn't for his jersey removal shtick, I'm not sure he would have one a fight

[That Aud Smell]

if it wasn't for his jersey removal shtick, I'm not sure he would have one a fight

Sir.

 

In retrospect, I'm a little ashamed of how loudly I cheered for Ray during his heyday. But, let us not disrespect the fact that he gave all to the team. I could post dozens of clips where he gave as good as (or better than) he got with his jersey tied down.

 

Also, there are just a few guys who threw heavier and more freely than him in Sabres history - tie-down trick or no. I'd venture to say that the tie-down technique extended his pugilistic efficacy - it didn't create it.

 

Having met the man, it truly seems like his torso and hands are made of cement.

Edited February 27, 2017 by That Aud Smell

[Claude Balls]

this appears to be a failed attempt at cultural bias and humor. You only succeeded at one. if it wasn't for his jersey removal shtick, I'm not sure he would have one a fight

Rob Ray won plenty more than he lost.....jersey or not. The dude was nasty.

[inkman]

I'm not underestimating his heart or desire, it's just that everyone outside of tie domi was 6 inches taller than him.

[That Aud Smell]

I'm not underestimating his heart or desire, it's just that everyone outside of tie domi was 6 inches taller than him.

Are you saying you don't independently recall him winning some memorable fights, where he fought beyond his weight class?

[Claude Balls]

That punk went after anyone on the bench, he deserved to get punched. I may be a little buyist in this decision though, as I played junior hockey and was in the car on the way home when my teammates were still playing. I didn't play a whole lot.

Edited February 27, 2017 by Claude Balls

[inkman]

That punk went after anyone on the bench, he deserved to get punched. I may be a little buyist in this decision though, as I played junior hockey and was in the car on the way home when my teammates were still playing. I didn't play a whole lot.

Kid got what he had coming, unfortunately so does Petey

[PromoTheRobot]

Another disturbing hockey story: http://www.wkbw.com/news/ecc-hockey-player-arrested-after-attacking-ref

[That Aud Smell]

Another disturbing hockey story: http://www.wkbw.com/news/ecc-hockey-player-arrested-after-attacking-ref

 

Related to Buffalo no less!

[Thwomp!]

Why are 15 year olds brawling anyway?

 

The NHL dinosaurs have apparently ruined hockey at all levels.

[inkman]

Why are 15 year olds brawling anyway?

 

That was my first thought as well.

[Jacque Richard]

this appears to be a failed attempt at cultural bias and humor. You only succeeded at one. if it wasn't for his jersey removal shtick, I'm not sure he would have one a fight

Come on teach!

[That Aud Smell]

Here's the footage of the game involving ECC:

 

 

Awful. The kid faces criminal charges. Rightly so.

Why are 15 year olds brawling anyway?

 

The NHL dinosaurs have apparently ruined hockey at all levels.

That was my first thought as well.

 

I, for one, am shocked, SHOCKED, that a team of 15 year olds coached by Andrew Peters would be engaged in a line brawl.

[Thwomp!]

Yeah, my 2nd thought was "Why is Andrew Peters coaching 15 year olds to begin with?!?!"  That scenario seemed destined to end in something like this.  Surprise!

[darksabre]

At this point I'm more worried we're going to find out Peters was abusing the kids he was coaching. I get that vibe from him...

[That Aud Smell]

At this point I'm more worried we're going to find out Peters was abusing the kids he was coaching. I get that vibe from him...

 

To be clear: You're talking "abuse" along the lines of Lindy's helmet whacks on Luke Adam (during a practice - with other player around), right?

[darksabre]

To be clear: You're talking "abuse" along the lines of Lindy's helmet whacks on Luke Adam (during a practice - with other player around), right?

Yes. I'm not going any further than that. Well, maybe I am. I'm not saying sexual abuse, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's hit kids before behind closed doors.

Edited February 27, 2017 by d4rksabre

[That Aud Smell]

Yes. I'm not going any further than that. Well, maybe I am. I'm not saying sexual abuse, but I wouldn't be surprised if he's hit kids before behind closed doors.

 

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. 

 

I'll say this: I'd never have a kid of mine playing for a buffoon like that. Never.

 

I'll add this for context: Ray coaches rec-level soccer at his kid's school, and, in my experience in the league, he is a very good and decent sort of coach in that setting. (Disclaimer: It's rec level soccer, and it's not the sport that Ray played. But, even so.)

[That Aud Smell]

Peters spoke to the incident on-air today, sort of. The clip of his audio is apparently here:

 

http://media.wben.com/a/118547587/andrew-peters-addresses-youth-hockey-brawl.htm

 

I didn't listen twice, but it's clear that he did not apologize for anything he actually did in terms of laying hands on opposing players. From a legal standpoint, that is understandable. From a PR standpoint, it is a total sh1t show.

 

Peters spoke about how fighting has no place in youth sports, that the game in question involved a lot of penalties, and that, apparently, he did not adequately instruct/prepare his players with regard to how to conduct themselves in the context of a game.

[darksabre]

Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. 

 

I'll say this: I'd never have a kid of mine playing for a buffoon like that. Never.

 

I'll add this for context: Ray coaches rec-level soccer at his kid's school, and, in my experience in the league, he is a very good and decent sort of coach in that setting. (Disclaimer: It's rec level soccer, and it's not the sport that Ray played. But, even so.)

I've always felt that Ray is mostly a gentle giant. Sure, he fought dudes a lot, but I don't think he was particularly spoiling for fights off the ice. 

 

I get a different impression from Peters though. I've listened to him in different contexts and he just comes off as an immature blowhard who still thinks he's in the game or something. That 40 year old dude swearing at kids at high school football games (that he goes to even though he doesn't have kids of his own) because the last cool thing he ever did was play high school football, ya know? 

Edited February 27, 2017 by d4rksabre

[MattPie]

At this point I'm more worried we're going to find out Peters was abusing the kids he was coaching. I get that vibe from him...

 

Dude, people have been booted from here for those kind of accusations. Unless you have proof, I wouldn't throw that kind of talk around.

 

Anyways, Peters is a moron for losing his cool. The refs and kids need to sort that out, no place for a coach to do that. Shove, punch, or bad breath knocking that kid over, he should be done and it's a bad look for WGR to have him on the radio today.

[That Aud Smell]

I've always felt that Ray is mostly a gentle giant. Sure, he fought dudes a lot, but I don't think he was particularly spoiling for fights off the ice. 

 

I get a different impression from Peters though. I've listened to him in different contexts and he just comes off as an immature blowhard who still thinks he's in the game or something. That 40 year old dude swearing at kids at high school football games (that he goes to even though he doesn't have kids of his own) because the last cool thing he ever did was play high school football, ya know? 

 

Yep, yep, and yep.

[#freejame]

I've always felt that Ray is mostly a gentle giant. Sure, he fought dudes a lot, but I don't think he was particularly spoiling for fights off the ice. 

 

I get a different impression from Peters though. I've listened to him in different contexts and he just comes off as an immature blowhard who still thinks he's in the game or something. That 40 year old dude swearing at kids at high school football games (that he goes to even though he doesn't have kids of his own) because the last cool thing he ever did was play high school football, ya know? 

Ray was an every time I met him, whether he was playing and I was a kid or he wasn't and we were both adults. He may be a gentle giant, but he's also a douche. 

[That Aud Smell]

Dude, people have been booted from here for those kind of accusations. Unless you have proof, I wouldn't throw that kind of talk around.

 

Anyways, Peters is a moron for losing his cool. The refs and kids need to sort that out, no place for a coach to do that. Shove, punch, or bad breath knocking that kid over, he should be done and it's a bad look for WGR to have him on the radio today.

 

Well, wait a second. Peters violently shoved/punched/chucked a 15 year-old kid over the weekend. It's not unfair to infer from that, albeit fairly speculatively, that, as a coach, he may not be shy about laying hands on his players.

 

And, if you've met Peters or spent time near/around him, the impression he gives would tend to further substantiate the theory.

 

The stuff to which you allude was much more in the realm of total speculation, with absolutely no basis in fact.

Ray was an ###### every time I met him, whether he was playing and I was a kid or he wasn't and we were both adults. He may be a gentle giant, but he's also a douche. 

 

Yeesh. All I can say is that I disagree. He's got a blunt and somewhat direct manner about him, but he's always been a genuine and good dude when I've dealt with him.

 

Full disclosure: Ray may have tracked down my crew 2 years ago as we left his kid's school grounds in order to congratulate my kid on a "helluva game." That went a long, long way with me.

[Sabres Fan in NS]

Dude, people have been booted from here for those kind of accusations. Unless you have proof, I wouldn't throw that kind of talk around.

 

Anyways, Peters is a moron for losing his cool. The refs and kids need to sort that out, no place for a coach to do that. Shove, punch, or bad breath knocking that kid over, he should be done and it's a bad look for WGR to have him on the radio today.

 

D4rk clarified his position a few posts after the one you quoted.

 

I don't think Peters should be within 10 miles of a hockey rink.  I was very surprised he was a coach of the Jr. Sabres.  I mean what the heck, no one else available?