jeffismagic Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) The NFL is the only sport where your 2nd most important person in the entire organization is your head coach. You could give Belichick the Browns roster and I bet he beats a McGinger run Patriots No way. Tom Brady and the Pats roster would beat Bill B and the Browns roster every day of the week. Maybe tougher with McWrestler but the talent would win out. I'll take Brady and any coach over Belichick and Cody Kessler and whoever else the Browns have trotted out in recent years. Correct answer. Edited August 11, 2017 by jeffismagic
WildCard Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Posted August 11, 2017 I'll take Brady and any coach over Belichick and Cody Kessler and whoever else the Browns have trotted out in recent years. Alright maybe the greatest QB of all time isn't the best comparable but come on, they almost beat us with their 3rd string QB last year
Randall Flagg Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 I'm reading that Matthews is pretty bad at catching the ball. He can run routes though. , I forgot about the 9ers. Whatever. Get the qb any way possible. That should be the sole goal of this franchise.
WildCard Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Posted August 11, 2017 I'm reading that Matthews is pretty bad at catching the ball. He can run routes though. ######, I forgot about the 9ers. Whatever. Get the qb any way possible. That should be the sole goal of this franchise. This is a hugely heavy QB and WR draft, so we should be in really good shape to fill those holes
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Don't know enough to evaluate the CB swap, but I freakin' love Jordan Matthews and I really like the swap of WR. Matthews was the best player I ever saw at Vanderbilt. Watkins, as we all know, is injury prone... and he would have been gone at the end of the year. I think the move makes sense. Zach Bogosian is the best player I ever saw on (insert beer league team here). This is a hugely heavy QB and WR draft, so we should be in really good shape to fill those holes For now. Just wait for the season to play out, a bunch of the QBs disappoint, and everyone says to wait for next year's class which we just know will be the year to take a QB. The endless cycle of the NFL draft. The only time I've ever seen the year in advance QB waiting game work out was with Andrew Luck.
jeffismagic Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) This is a hugely heavy QB and WR draft, so we should be in really good shape to fill those holes It's been 20 years since the Bills have had a real QB and the current regime has no clue how to evaluate QB's. Pray for losses and a top 2 pick that they don't need any scouting on. Edited August 11, 2017 by jeffismagic
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 I'm reading that Matthews is pretty bad at catching the ball. He can run routes though. ######, I forgot about the 9ers. Whatever. Get the qb any way possible. That should be the sole goal of this franchise. He is. Which is why he needs a bazillion targets to get yards. He's not a horrible player on the whole or anything, but this "not much of a step down from Watkins" is lunacy.
jeffismagic Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 He is. Which is why he needs a bazillion targets to get yards. He's not a horrible player on the whole or anything, but this "not much of a step down from Watkins" is lunacy. John Murphy was pushing their equivalence today.
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 John Murphy was pushing their equivalence today. This is my shocked face.
CallawaySabres Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Bills tank and get the 4th best QB - it's going to be the worst draft day in decades. Anyone who thinks any of those 3 teams above us will trade away their pick so WE can get THEIR qb is drunk. Jets Niners Browns Bills
WildCard Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Posted August 11, 2017 It's been 20 years since the Bills have had a real QB and the current regime has no clue how to evaluate QB's. Pray for losses and a top 2 pick that they don't need any scouting on. Bills tank and get the 4th best QB - it's going to be the worst draft day in decades. Anyone who thinks any of those 3 teams above us will trade away their pick so WE can get THEIR qb is drunk. Jets Niners Browns Bills The first QB taken isn't always the best one. Anyone up there could easily miss and let the best QB fall to another team
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Bills tank and get the 4th best QB - it's going to be the worst draft day in decades. Anyone who thinks any of those 3 teams above us will trade away their pick so WE can get THEIR qb is drunk. Jets Niners Browns Bills We may well be worse than the Browns. Kizer is gonna be good.
CallawaySabres Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 The first QB taken isn't always the best one. Anyone up there could easily miss and let the best QB fall to another team Just get ready for JP Losman, it's coming
JJFIVEOH Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 He is. Which is why he needs a bazillion targets to get yards. He's not a horrible player on the whole or anything, but this "not much of a step down from Watkins" is lunacy. Edelman needs a bazillion targets too. So did Wes Welker.
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Edelman needs a bazillion targets too. So did Wes Welker.For entirely different reasons... Also, getting a bazooka targets isn't necessarily the same as needing to get a bazillion targets. That you're comparing the way Matthews gets his numbers to how Welker did and Edelman does, says a lot about your grasp of the game. None of it good. Edit 2: Seriously, Edelman and Welker are two of the best slot receivers of their era. Matthews is...a...slot receiver. That's about where the comparison ends. Unless all you're doing is looking at YPC at pro football reference. Edited August 11, 2017 by TrueBlueGED
JJFIVEOH Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 For entirely different reasons... Also, getting a bazooka targets isn't necessarily the same as needing to get a bazillion targets. That you're comparing the way Matthews gets his numbers to how Welker did and Edelman does, says a lot about your grasp of the game. None of it good. Edit 2: Seriously, Edelman and Welker are two of the best slot receivers of their era. Matthews is...a...slot receiver. That's about where the comparison ends. Unless all you're doing is looking at YPC at pro football reference. That wasn't conceited in the least. I'm sorry to insult your intelligence with my subpar sports knowledge. I can only hope that one day I can be as high and mighty as yourself. Wish me luck.
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 That wasn't conceited in the least. I'm sorry to insult your intelligence with my subpar sports knowledge. I can only hope that one day I can be as high and mighty as yourself. Wish me luck. You yourself said you don't follow football very closely.
jeffismagic Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 The first QB taken isn't always the best one. Anyone up there could easily miss and let the best QB fall to another team That happened this year when the best QB in the draft dropped into the Bills lap and they traded him.
sabresparaavida Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Edelman is not one of the best slot receivers of his era. He just has the best Qb of his era.
JJFIVEOH Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 You yourself said you don't follow football very closely. Don't put this on me, your post was over the top. If you think I'm so beneath you, just move on and talk to somebody else. Your act gets old.
WildCard Posted August 11, 2017 Author Report Posted August 11, 2017 That happened this year when the best QB in the draft dropped into the Bills lap and they traded him. And now we have 2 firsts next year. That was a great trade
Randall Flagg Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 That happened this year when the best QB in the draft dropped into the Bills lap and they traded him. The guy who's third string behind Smith and some dude named Tyler Bray? :P
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Edelman is not one of the best slot receivers of his era. He just has the best Qb of his era. Edelman can be great in how own right while also benefitting from playing with Brady. "One of the best of his era" was probably overstating it, but he's a hell of a player.
jeffismagic Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 The guy who's third string behind Smith and some dude named Tyler Bray? :P Yes, that guy. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/8/11/16124932/bills-fans-not-liking-what-theyre-seeing-with-patrick-mahomes
TrueBlueGED Posted August 11, 2017 Report Posted August 11, 2017 Don't put this on me, your post was over the top. If you think I'm so beneath you, just move on and talk to somebody else. Your act gets old. Next time come up with a better argument than looking at a stat sheet, seeing similar numbers (minus the 4.2 YPC which is being conveniently ignored), and saying there's not much difference. I watch more football than is healthy to watch, and to say Watkins and Matthews are pretty close as players is either the height of ignorance or a shocking level of homerism. There are reasons to like the trade (team building, get value whole you can, etc), but "not much difference" isn't one of them. The guy who's third string behind Smith and some dude named Tyler Bray? :P In a past life I was supportive of taking Bray in the mid rounds :lol: :cry:
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