ubkev Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Also, the "unbeatable" Chieves just lost at home. To the Bills. And now have the same record. This team would be 7-4 if not for the McDermott / Peterman situation. That kid is ######. He's not good AND he's injury prone. So you're calling him a sure thing for Buffalo?
Eleven Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 So you're calling him a sure thing for Buffalo? I don't pray much when it comes to sports. I have enough praying to do in real life. Don't get me busy.
JujuFish Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 So now if we beat a bad Dolphins team twice and a bad Colts team once, we're 9-7 with a pretty damn good shot at playoffs.
Eleven Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 So now if we beat a bad Dolphins team twice and a bad Colts team once, we're 9-7 with a pretty damn good shot at playoffs. Or could be 10-6 if not for McDermott being an idiot.
JohnRobertEichel Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 So now if we beat a bad Dolphins team twice and a bad Colts team once, we're 9-7 with a pretty damn good shot at playoffs. Unlikely, in my opinion. The Pats, Steelers, Jags, Titans, Ravens, and the AFC West Champs (either the Chiefs, Chargers, or Raiders) will probably be the playoff teams. There's no room for the 9-7 Bills. We will need to finish 10-6 this year to make the playoffs. The Jags, Titans, and Ravens all have incredibly easy remaining schedules and should get to 10 wins. The Ravens will probably even beat us with tiebreakers at 9-7.
JujuFish Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Or could be 10-6 if not for McDermott being an idiot. With how bad the defense was, starting Taylor wouldn't have made a difference.
ubkev Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 With how bad the defense was, starting Taylor wouldn't have made a difference. The Chargers scored 31 points off of turnovers and won by 30.
Eleven Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 The Chargers scored 31 points off of turnovers and won by 30. EXACTLY. Bills could have had that easily over the 3-6 Chargers.
JujuFish Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Unlikely, in my opinion. The Pats, Steelers, Jags, Titans, Ravens, and the AFC West Champs (either the Chiefs, Chargers, or Raiders) will probably be the playoff teams. There's no room for the 9-7 Bills. We will need to finish 10-6 this year to make the playoffs. The Jags, Titans, and Ravens all have incredibly easy remaining schedules and should get to 10 wins. The Ravens will probably even beat us with tiebreakers at 9-7. Patriots and Steelers are obvious locks. Jags are too, IMO. The Chargers have been the best team in the West and I can see them taking it if they win their game against the Chiefs later on. If that happens, we're down to Ravens, Titans, and Chiefs as competition. We hold head-to-head against the Chiefs, obviously, so a Chargers loss + 1 more puts them down to 9-7 and behind us. The Ravens will have a hard time with the Lions and Steelers, and division games are never a given, so add the Bengals and even perhaps the Browns to that list (though they crushed both of those teams to start the season). I think the Titans get the first wild card spot, but they have to deal with the Rams and Jags still, though those losses would only bring them down to 10-6. Anyway, what I'm saying is I can see them making it at 9-7 over the Ravens and Chiefs if the Chargers win the West. The Chargers scored 31 points off of turnovers and won by 30. You're assuming they wouldn't have scored points regardless. And they began sitting starters in the THIRD QUARTER.
Eleven Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Patriots and Steelers are obvious locks. Jags are too, IMO. The Chargers have been the best team in the West and I can see them taking it if they win their game against the Chiefs later on. If that happens, we're down to Ravens, Titans, and Chiefs as competition. We hold head-to-head against the Chiefs, obviously, so a Chargers loss + 1 more puts them down to 9-7 and behind us. The Ravens will have a hard time with the Lions and Steelers, and division games are never a given, so add the Bengals and even perhaps the Browns to that list (though they crushed both of those teams to start the season). I think the Titans get the first wild card spot, but they have to deal with the Rams and Jags still, though those losses would only bring them down to 10-6. Anyway, what I'm saying is I can see them making it at 9-7 over the Ravens and Chiefs if the Chargers win the West. You're assuming they wouldn't have scored points regardless. And they began sitting starters in the THIRD QUARTER. Seriously? That game was lost by McDermott starting Peterman. The Bills beat a MUCH better team today, also on the road, in a considerably tougher environment (Arrowhead over the Chargers' soccer field, really?). If the Bills miss the playoffs by a game, the Chargers game is the game. If you don't see that, you're blind.
JujuFish Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Seriously? That game was lost by McDermott starting Peterman. The Bills beat a MUCH better team today, also on the road, in a considerably tougher environment (Arrowhead over the Chargers' soccer field, really?). If the Bills miss the playoffs by a game, the Chargers game is the game. If you don't see that, you're blind. The Bills couldn't stop the Chargers on defense, period. The Chargers' starting offense punted once. 24 points came off Peterman turnovers, and the Chargers were up by 30 when their starting offense sat and 37 when their defense took a rest. If you don't see that, you're the blind one here.
ubkev Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 Bills first drive ends in pick. Chargers next play ends in Touchdown. Bills next drive ends in pick. Charges miss field goal. Bills score Chargers miss field goal. Bills pick Chargers TD PICK! TD! PICK!!!! FG You get the picture. McDermott and Peterman lost that game. When the D is defending half a field and your turnovers in the second half alone put you down 27 points then you can't blame anyone but the terrible decision that your coach made.
Eleven Posted November 26, 2017 Report Posted November 26, 2017 The Bills couldn't stop the Chargers on defense, period. The Chargers' starting offense punted once. 24 points came off Peterman turnovers, and the Chargers were up by 30 when their starting offense sat and 37 when their defense took a rest. If you don't see that, you're the blind one here. Bills first drive ends in pick. Chargers next play ends in Touchdown. Bills next drive ends in pick. Charges miss field goal. Bills score Chargers miss field goal. Bills pick Chargers TD PICK! TD! PICK!!!! FG You get the picture. McDermott and Peterman lost that game. When the D is defending half a field and your turnovers in the second half alone put you down 27 points then you can't blame anyone but the terrible decision that your coach made. Exactly. When the Chargers offense actually had to play, they were starting at what, the Bills' 35?
JujuFish Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Exactly. When the Chargers offense actually had to play, they were starting at what, the Bills' 35? They gained 279 yards on offense in the first half alone. After our TD and two punts of the first half (AKA the non-turnover Peterman drives), they followed it up with drives totaling 182 yards and scored on all 3 drives. The Bills beat a MUCH better team today Also, going back to this point since I forgot to address it, that's very arguable right now. The Chiefs are on a 1-5 slump with their only win coming against a bad Broncos team. The Chargers, on the other hand, have won 6 of 8, with their only two losses, both by 1 score, coming to the Patriots and Jags, the #1 and #3 teams in the AFC, and their loss before that was a 2-point loss to the Eagles, the #1 team in the entire NFL.
JohnRobertEichel Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Patriots and Steelers are obvious locks. Jags are too, IMO. The Chargers have been the best team in the West and I can see them taking it if they win their game against the Chiefs later on. If that happens, we're down to Ravens, Titans, and Chiefs as competition. We hold head-to-head against the Chiefs, obviously, so a Chargers loss + 1 more puts them down to 9-7 and behind us. The Ravens will have a hard time with the Lions and Steelers, and division games are never a given, so add the Bengals and even perhaps the Browns to that list (though they crushed both of those teams to start the season). I think the Titans get the first wild card spot, but they have to deal with the Rams and Jags still, though those losses would only bring them down to 10-6. Anyway, what I'm saying is I can see them making it at 9-7 over the Ravens and Chiefs if the Chargers win the West. You're assuming they wouldn't have scored points regardless. And they began sitting starters in the THIRD QUARTER. The Ravens are currently 5-5. I don't see them losing to the Texans, Colts, or Browns. I do see them losing to the Steelers. That leaves them at 8-6, with the Lions and Bengals remaining. Due to tiebreaker procedures, the Lions game doesn't mean much with this 8-6 prediction of mine. It would all come down to the Bengals in week 17. If the Ravens beat them, then they will own the common games tiebreaker over the Bills. If they lose to the Bengals, then it may come down to the strength of victory tiebreaker which the Bills should easily win. Since I don't see the Ravens losing to the Bengals at home week 17 with playoffs on the line, I don't see the Bills making it at 9-7. I'm also not super confident that either the Chiefs or Chargers lose at least two more games. Wait a minute. Then again, I'm not that confident the Bills can even sweep the Dolphins.....
Eleven Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Juju: The Bills win that game with Taylor and sweep the AFC West. Fuhr: I think you're right, unfortunately. Everyone: How the hell did I miss THIS? https://streamable.com/bvzfa
spndnchz Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Juju: The Bills win that game with Taylor and sweep the AFC West. Fuhr: I think you're right, unfortunately. Everyone: How the hell did I miss THIS? https://streamable.com/bvzfa Stupid-est call Ev-R
inkman Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 What in the hell https://twitter.com/zayjones11/status/934906593828892674
JujuFish Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Juju: The Bills win that game with Taylor and sweep the AFC West. I can honestly say I don't know how anyone can hold that opinion.
WildCard Posted November 27, 2017 Author Report Posted November 27, 2017 I can honestly say I don't know how anyone can hold that opinion.Really? I know a lot of people that hold that opinion, including myself
JohnRobertEichel Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Really? I know a lot of people that hold that opinion, including myself It's an opinion not based on any strong evidence. With the Buffalo defense from weeks 9-11, very few NFL QB's could have led the Bills to victory against LA. Especially Tyrod Taylor, who has proven after almost three full seasons that he's not a QB who can win shootouts or win from behind. With Cordy Glenn out, Benjamin going out, against that pass rush, and against Coach Lynn who knows Taylor well, I don't think Taylor had much of a chance either....though it certainly would have been a lot closer than 54-24. For those interested in the playoff race, tonight's game (Texans vs. Ravens) is extremely important. Here's the playoff summary: Bills aren't beating the Pats, and 8-8 isn't going to cut it, so the only realistic playoff road is 9-7 with a must-win scenario sweep of Miami plus a victory over the Colts. Pats and Steelers will make the playoffs. Jags and Titans are 7-4 with very easy schedules, so it's unrealistic to expect a 2-3 or worse finish from either. Browns, Broncos, Colts, and Dolphins can't catch a 9-7 Bills team under this current scenario. So that leaves 7 teams in the way: 1. Jets: 1 more loss from them will do it. 2. Raiders: 1 more loss from them will do it. 3. Chiefs: 2 more losses needed. 4. Chargers: 2 more losses needed (most likely to win the AFC West, in my opinion) 5. Bengals: 2 more losses needed. 6. Texans: 2 more losses needed (or just 1 if the loss is to an AFC team). 7. Ravens 3 more losses needed (or just 2 if a loss is to either Colts or Bengals plus another AFC team). Jets, Raiders, and Texans are trivial. Bengals should happen, too. Chargers and Chiefs play each other, so the loser of that one only needs 1 more loss. The Ravens are the big problem. They have an easy schedule (Texans, Lions, Colts, Bengals, Browns, Steelers), with the only saving grace being that they are not that good of a team.
Eleven Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 ^ Yep, that unnecessary conference loss killed a lot of things. (So did the Jones drop in Carolina, if you prefer.)
Doohicksie Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 Everyone: How the hell did I miss THIS? https://streamable.com/bvzfa Not sure. It created howls of protest at the Bills Backers bar where we were watching the game.
SwampD Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) If he Chiefs were beatable today (and they were), so were the 3-6 Chargers a week ago. If the Bills miss the playoffs, it's on McDermott and his ###### stupid move. Sorry, d4rk, if you wanted to see Peterman again. EDIT: And for once, Swamp is right. There were PI calls that were ignored, but those calls would have been made were the receivers wearing New England uniforms. Every official is an impartial observer of the game and every team is judged completely the same. What in the hell https://twitter.com/zayjones11/status/934906593828892674 I saw that during the game and couldn't believe it. If everyone else didn't keep going in the same direction I would have thought that they reversed the playback. And did anyone else notice that they started to actually incorporate camouflage into all the NFL gear and even on the uniforms? USA! USA! USA! Edited November 27, 2017 by SwampD
TheAud Posted November 27, 2017 Report Posted November 27, 2017 If Tyrod starts vs. SD obviously things play out differently but I have serious doubts they win that game anyway the way the defense was playing and the way SD is playing. I mean, we'll never know but McDermott will get trashed for the decision until the Bills make the playoffs in any event. I am going to Pats game this weekend with 19 Patriots fans and me in my Throwback Thurman jersey and Bills Santa cap. Bus ride to and from the game, free ticket in box seats with as much free food and drink as desired...I couldn't say no.
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