darksabre Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 And TT is not gonna make it happen... Start Peterman and bring TT off the bench if need be... Got to light a fire under TT. Think this is as much abt getting TT going as anything. Getting TT going? What the f does that mean? You think Tyrod is suddenly gonna be Mike Vick because he got his peepee slapped? Ain't this all some sh*t. Y'all are lost.
WildCard Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Posted November 16, 2017 And TT is not gonna make it happen... Start Peterman and bring TT off the bench if need be... Got to light a fire under TT. Think this is as much abt getting TT going as anything. His entire career has been mired in speculation of if he'll even have a job the next game. I don't think there's any lack of fire for Tyrod
Iron Crotch Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 We have 2.5 years worth of data on what Tyrod can and can't do. And, no data whatsoever in meaningful game action as to what Peterman is capable of. If the coaches (who see these guys every day in practice) think Peterman is a better option than Tyrod then I'm okay with exploring that possibility. At worst it makes Sunday's game worth watching.
JujuFish Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 I almost didn't get past #1 since his long ball is a demonstrated strength. Not that it means too terribly much in the overall scheme of a successful QB, but he can mos def put air under it and hit a guy in stride. I disagree. His deep throws almost never look good to me unless the coverage is blown and the receiver has time to adjust. His numbers aren't terrible on deep throws because he's usually too afraid to throw it deep unless his receivers are wide open.
WildCard Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Posted November 16, 2017 We have 2.5 years worth of data on what Tyrod can and can't do. And, no data whatsoever in meaningful game action as to what Peterman is capable of. If the coaches (who see these guys every day in practice) think Peterman is a better option than Tyrod then I'm okay with exploring that possibility. At worst it makes Sunday's game worth watching. Considering this year has been a throwaway for me since Day 1, I'm with you
JujuFish Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 At worst it makes Sunday's game worth watching. Not if the defense of the last few weeks shows up.
Randall Flagg Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Look at the AFC standings, watch the teams behind us play, and tell me we shouldn't try to get the best 7 game stretch we possibly can. We're halfway to ending this stupid drought. Give it everything you have because next year we will probably have a bad 2 game stretch WITHOUT the benefit of a 5-2 start, even if we're better, and next year we may well be back to 3 10-6 teams in the AFC West making it impossible to get in. It is rare that the standings look like this at this point with the Bills in this position. Start Peterman if you it up and have 3 meaningless games at the end. Don't start him when you still have a real chance to not it up.
WildCard Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Posted November 16, 2017 Look at the AFC standings, watch the teams behind us play, and tell me we shouldn't try to get the best 7 game stretch we possibly can. We're halfway to ###### ending this stupid ###### drought. Give it everything you ###### have because next year we will probably have a bad 2 game stretch WITHOUT the benefit of a 5-2 start, even if we're better, and next year we may well be back to 3 10-6 teams in the AFC West making it impossible to get in. It is rare that the standings look like this at this point with the Bills in this position. Start Peterman if you ###### it up and have 3 meaningless games at the end. Don't start him when you still have a real chance to not ###### it up. You really, really hate this guy
Randall Flagg Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) You really, really hate this guy No, I hate what starting him in week 9 at 5-4 facing a weak team in a ###### stadium from the 6th seed represents. We just allowed 500 rushing yards the last two weeks practically, for 150 yards per carry. Coach keeps putting Vlad Ducasse on an NFL field, contributing to some of the worst oline play in recent memory. Giving up cuz Tyrod Sux and putting noodle rookie in the same exact spot does nothing for anybody at this point. Unless they watched Peterman and said he's ready to win 5 games to close out the year. Edited November 16, 2017 by Randall Flagg
WildCard Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Posted November 16, 2017 Unless they watched Peterman and said he's ready to win 5 games to close out the year. Pretty sure this is the reason. They probably think he's better for the team. More points, and longer, more consistent drives to give the defense a rest
That Aud Smell Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 The cream will rise to the top. The Bills stink. We knew it before the season. We should know it now. Bad players = bad team. It's the 2017 AFC. There ain't much cream. A deeply flawed AFC team will probably make the playoffs. Query whether that's what the fans really want. Maybe they do. I disagree. His deep throws almost never look good to me unless the coverage is blown and the receiver has time to adjust. His numbers aren't terrible on deep throws because he's usually too afraid to throw it deep unless his receivers are wide open. We do disagree then. I had thought this was pretty widely agreed on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrPrqqTiHw Pretty sure this is the reason. They probably think he's better for the team. More points, and longer, more consistent drives to give the defense a rest Agreed.
nfreeman Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Pretty sure this is the reason. They probably think he's better for the team. More points, and longer, more consistent drives to give the defense a rest I'm in the "McD must think Peterman gives them a better shot for the rest of this season than TT" camp. He has to know that there is no such thing as long-term job security in the NFL or in a Pegula sports franchise. It's a highly questionable decision, to be sure, but I do respect the fact that he's determined to take a shot at it his way. As for TT: I wouldn't agree that he's gotten a really fair shot mostly because he's had a terrible group of receivers for most of his time here, under both McD and Rex. They lost Harvin early on, Sammy was injured a lot (even in games he dressed for), Clay has also been injured a lot, they traded Sammy this year, Matthews has been hurt as well, etc.
SwampD Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 If the reason that TT got benched is anything other than McD thinks Peterman gives us the best chance to win on Sunday, it is absolutely the wrong decision. This BS about seeing what we have for the future just makes my blood boil. the future. If Buffalo sports has taught us anything it's that there is no future. There is only right now. Win now.
MattPie Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 I thought I'd stop in to throw a little shade at the coaching staff. Tyrod has definite issues and weaknesses, but the coaching staff apparently has no clue how to adjust for what the Jets and now Saints did. I have a tough time believing that there wasn't any adjustment that could have at least given Taylor a fighting chance.
North Buffalo Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 His entire career has been mired in speculation of if he'll even have a job the next game. I don't think there's any lack of fire for TyrodThen he is what he is, but Ive seen him play better. Bills will not make the playoffs withh TT playing QB. Not saying Peterman will. But at least they find out.
WildCard Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Posted November 16, 2017 Then he is what he is, but Ive seen him play better. Bills will not make the playoffs withh TT playing QB. Not saying Peterman will. But at least they find out.Worse QBs than Tyrod have made the playoffs. Hell, worse qbs than Tyrod have won a SB
Stoner Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) "It's not about making the playoffs... errrr, not about just making the playoffs." —Darcy Regier, "Suffering" It's the same idea at play here. This is not a good team, not yet. And this move is all about the future. Why not find out what Peterman has NOW, in the most meaningful games, instead of in three meaningless games to end the season? I can like this philosophy or not, but I will hand this to Terry: with both of his teams, I think his approach is consistent. Now let's get Ullmark up here and see what he can do. Edited November 16, 2017 by PASabreFan
darksabre Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Then he is what he is, but Ive seen him play better. Bills will not make the playoffs withh TT playing QB. Not saying Peterman will. But at least they find out. No one on Earth can back this statement up with evidence.
Stoner Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 No one on Earth can back this statement up with evidence. Why should he have to, Mike Schopp? It's an opinion. (Of course Mike's opinions are unimpeachable facts.) #takingoutmyschoppfrustrationond4rk
darksabre Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Why should he have to, Mike Schopp? It's an opinion. (Of course Mike's opinions are unimpeachable facts.) #takingoutmyschoppfrustrationond4rk :D
dudacek Posted November 16, 2017 Report Posted November 16, 2017 Can’t tell yet if this smacks more of handing the keys to Ken Dryden in 1970 or Anders Lindback in 2015
spndnchz Posted November 17, 2017 Report Posted November 17, 2017 A friend of mine speaks my un-football speak. “Tyron, back to pass, looks, he’s open, nope, looks he’s open, nope, looks, pass to XXX for 2 yards”
inkman Posted November 17, 2017 Report Posted November 17, 2017 How can it go wrong! http://es.pn/2zG1GINvia @ESPN App http://es.pn/app
Eleven Posted November 17, 2017 Report Posted November 17, 2017 Imagine the Sabres in eighth place in the conference in late January / early February, trading Lehner and calling up and starting Ullmark. That's what we have here.
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