Samson's Flow Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 Sure they do. Manziel got a shot, RG3 got a shot, Tyrod has a shot, Vicck had a shot, and never went to a SB, maybe NFC championship game? You're picking outliers and then saying they're rare because they don't get a shot. They don't get a shot because they don't work. Even the best running QB ever in Vick had limited success in the playoffs. It's just far too unpredictable of a system to rely on individual efforts to win.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 Young, Elway, Tarkenton come to mind. I always forget about Tarkenton! Great call.
LGR4GM Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AOYBMFe-xQ&t=114s Edited October 4, 2017 by LGR4GM
WildCard Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 He runs, a lot. A lot a lot/ 3rd and 6, running. Designed runs, running. He gets hit, a ton.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 He runs, a lot. A lot a lot/ 3rd and 6, running. Designed runs, running. He gets hit, a ton. You're now arguing something that isn't being argued. He does run a lot. He also...passes a lot. Dismissing him because he runs a lot is nuts.
Eleven Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 You're now arguing something that isn't being argued. He does run a lot. He also...passes a lot. Dismissing him because he runs a lot is nuts. I don't want the guy here, but dismissing a QB because he has an added dimension to his game seems a little crazy to me.
WildCard Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 You're now arguing something that isn't being argued. He does run a lot. He also...passes a lot. Dismissing him because he runs a lot is nuts. I want him to pass more than he runs, how is that nuts? I don't want the guy here, but dismissing a QB because he has an added dimension to his game seems a little crazy to me. He has a dimension he relies upon a lot that cannot be relied upon that much in the NFL.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 I want him to pass more than he runs, how is that nuts? Because he already passes more than he runs?
WildCard Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 Because he already passes more than he runs? Should rephrase that. I want the balance of pass to run to be 90-10, not 70-30
WildCard Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 @mikerodak Bills coach Sean McDermott notes "competition" when asked if Cedric Thornton or Marcell Dareus will start at defensive tackle this Sunday in Cincinnati. Dareus' playing time could increase after an ankle injury limited him last week, but it seems the coaching staff wants to give Thornton a shot at taking that top role alongside Kyle Williams. @kmart_BN Talking about Marcell Dareus + the #Bills' DL pieces, Sean McDermott dropped a telling line: It's all about "who can get the job done.
That Aud Smell Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 McDermott doesn't care for, and apparently doesn't need Marcell. It's interesting. The Whaley way clearly contemplated paying a king's ransom to one elite big-boy DT. It's clear that McDermott does not see the need to do the same.
nfreeman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 McDermott doesn't care for, and apparently doesn't need Marcell. It's interesting. The Whaley way clearly contemplated paying a king's ransom to one elite big-boy DT. It's clear that McDermott does not see the need to do the same. ...and not giving a poop about character as long as the athleticism was there -- hence Karlos Williams, Dareus, Seantrel Henderson, etc.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 Should rephrase that. I want the balance of pass to run to be 90-10, not 70-30 Honestly, I knew what you meant, I'm just being argumentative :lol: Separately, Dareus is so gone the moment it's not crippling financially.
LGR4GM Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 Honestly, I knew what you meant, I'm just being argumentative :lol: Separately, Dareus is so gone the moment it's not crippling financially. Can we trade him for a WR or something useful?
nfreeman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 My understanding is that trading Dareus this year would indeed be crippling financially, but trading him after this season would not be.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 My understanding is that trading Dareus this year would indeed be crippling financially, but trading him after this season would not be. I'm top lazy to look, but I believe this is accurate. However, the team he gets traded to would be saddled with a similarly large cap hit (I think), making a trade unlikely. He's probably a contract we have to cut our way out of.
Taro T Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 I'm top lazy to look, but I believe this is accurate. However, the team he gets traded to would be saddled with a similarly large cap hit (I think), making a trade unlikely. He's probably a contract we have to cut our way out of. My understanding was that the contract becomes "tradeable" &/or "cut-able" after next season but that the Bills would still take a huge hit letting him go prior to next season.
TrueBlueGED Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 My understanding was that the contract becomes "tradeable" &/or "cut-able" after next season but that the Bills would still take a huge hit letting him go prior to next season. Yea, just looked it up. Seems to me if we part ways prior to next season, it's a $22 million dead cap charge. After next season, that drops to a very manageable $7.8 million. Post with some good stuff on Tyrod at the top: https://twoqbs.com/in-season/nfl-quarterback-rundown-week-4/
nfreeman Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 My understanding was that the contract becomes "tradeable" &/or "cut-able" after next season but that the Bills would still take a huge hit letting him go prior to next season. Yea, just looked it up. Seems to me if we part ways prior to next season, it's a $22 million dead cap charge. After next season, that drops to a very manageable $7.8 million. Post with some good stuff on Tyrod at the top: https://twoqbs.com/in-season/nfl-quarterback-rundown-week-4/ But I think (and I could be wrong) that after this season, the cap hits are quite different for cutting him vs trading him -- i.e. it's still crippling if they cut him, but not if they trade him (acknowledging that as True pointed out someone needs to be willing to trade for him).
WildCard Posted October 4, 2017 Author Report Posted October 4, 2017 Honestly, I knew what you meant, I'm just being argumentative :lol: Separately, Dareus is so gone the moment it's not crippling financially. :nana: I have a hard time really evaluating linemen and players like that. Is he actually terrible now or just not worth what he's being paid?
Eleven Posted October 4, 2017 Report Posted October 4, 2017 My understanding is that trading Dareus this year would indeed be crippling financially, but trading him after this season would not be. There are some ramifications if he's traded in 2018, too, and they're bad, but maybe just not as bad, IIRC. And maybe I don't RC.
WildCard Posted October 6, 2017 Author Report Posted October 6, 2017 @ChrisBrownBills Matthews and Humber out for Sunday's game. EJ Gaines is questionable for the game w/groin injury. #Bills McDermott: we have to evolve in all 3 phases & expect to win in all 3 areas. But we have work to do in all 3 areas as well. #Bills Glenn will be full practice here on Friday. Designation for Sunday to be determined. #Bills McDermott on CB health - we're a little nicked there. I'm confident we'll figure it out for Sunday. #Bills @SalSports McDermott on Shamarko Thomas: Talks about his speed and toughness. @JonScottTV Sean McDermott says he’s most impressed with LeSean McCoy’s growth as a teammate. McD comparing from what he saw when together in Philly @ChrisBrownBills McDermott fairly confident Lawson, Dareus & Hyde will be able to go on Sunday #Bills
CallawaySabres Posted October 6, 2017 Report Posted October 6, 2017 Really need Gaines for Sunday but it does not look like he will be ready.....Great to Have Lawson and Hyde though
Wyldnwoody44 Posted October 7, 2017 Report Posted October 7, 2017 http://billswire.usatoday.com/2017/10/05/bills-preston-brown-sammy-watkins-sean-mcdermott/
Eleven Posted October 8, 2017 Report Posted October 8, 2017 What's the best place in Ellicottville not named Balloons to catch the game? We are road tripping to see alpacas and then fall fest.
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