pi2000 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Anybody else have concerns wrt the protected list and a new GM? Depending on when he's hired, he'll have at most a few weeks to decide on who to protect. Is that enough time to get to know the players? With Murray we knew who his favorites were, but with a new GM it's gonna be a total crap shoot, and that's a bit unnerving. Kane? Lehner? Bogo? Ennis? Who knows. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 I don't think the plan changes at all regardless of the GM. After all our best players are our best players regardless of system. I just don't think that a new GM is going to burn down the whole rebuild. Sam, Jack, Risto, McCabe, ROR, KO and possbily Lehner are going to remain the core. Everyone else, including Kane, are available to be moved and this was the case before yesterday and remains the case today. What I'd like to see happen is that the new GM gets a top 3 D before the expansion draft and protects that player in a 7-3-1 and exposes Bogo. However, the upside of a new GM and coach is that guys like Bogo and Ennis get a new lease on life. Maybe just maybe they find their games. Lehner is the big question mark. He was certainly a TM favorite. However, the growth in his game and professionalism year over year was excellent. I can't see the new GM not giving him at least a bridge deal because I don't see a better value option out there. Bishop, and Fleury all would be significantly more expensive and may not be what the franchise needs long-term. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Anybody else have concerns wrt the protected list and a new GM? Depending on when he's hired, he'll have at most a few weeks to decide on who to protect. Is that enough time to get to know the players? With Murray we knew who his favorites were, but with a new GM it's gonna be a total crap shoot, and that's a bit unnerving. Kane? Lehner? Bogo? Ennis? Who knows. I don't think there's a single person employed by an NHL team that would expose Kane in an expansion draft. And that includes Dustin Byfuglien. There may be some fallout with trades in and around the expansion draft, but the protected list itself is the easiest thing in the world for the team to set. A new GM would literally have to be attempting to sabotage the team to get it wrong in any meaningful way. Quote
Sabre fan Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 there should be some d available hopefully but as for McNabb please...he ain't that great;might as well bring back TJ Brennan I think he's still kicking around Quote
LGR4GM Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Anybody else have concerns wrt the protected list and a new GM? Depending on when he's hired, he'll have at most a few weeks to decide on who to protect. Is that enough time to get to know the players? With Murray we knew who his favorites were, but with a new GM it's gonna be a total crap shoot, and that's a bit unnerving. Kane? Lehner? Bogo? Ennis? Who knows. Only the dumbest GM in the NHL would expose Kane in an expansion draft. I wouldn't even wait for the draft to be over I would just slap him in the face with a shovel and fire him on the spot. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 I'm a little worried that we lose Carrier when we have a chance to dump a bad contract. Losing Carrier isn't some massive blow to the team, but with a nonzero chance that Ennis is taken, I want that to happen. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 I'm a little worried that we lose Carrier when we have a chance to dump a bad contract. Losing Carrier isn't some massive blow to the team, but with a nonzero chance that Ennis is taken, I want that to happen. Leaving Carrier exposed would be awfully dumb, but yea, hardly crippling. Quote
Taro T Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 I'm a little worried that we lose Carrier when we have a chance to dump a bad contract. Losing Carrier isn't some massive blow to the team, but with a nonzero chance that Ennis is taken, I want that to happen. Why would Carrier be exposed but Ennis on a (relatively) bad deal be protected? Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Why would Carrier be exposed but Ennis on a (relatively) bad deal be protected? Because we decided to hire Dave Nonis or Mike Gillis. Quote
Taro T Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Because we decided to hire Dave Nonis or Mike Gillis. Where's that FU smiley when one really needs it? :p Quote
pi2000 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Leaving Carrier exposed would be awfully dumb, but yea, hardly crippling. How is any GM coming in here with only a few weeks to prepare, have enough time to evaluate the roster? I think any of us have a better understanding of the players strengths and weaknesses than whoever the new GM will be. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 How is any GM coming in here with only a few weeks to prepare, have enough time to evaluate the roster? I think any of us have a better understanding of the players strengths and weaknesses than whoever the new GM will be. Unless it's someone already in the organization (insert face mask thingie here) Quote
Ogre Posted April 21, 2017 Report Posted April 21, 2017 Leaving Carrier exposed would be awfully dumb, but yea, hardly crippling. Post season Preds are looking good with guys that play like Will does. Quote
inkman Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 How is any GM coming in here with only a few weeks to prepare, have enough time to evaluate the roster? I think any of us have a better understanding of the players strengths and weaknesses than whoever the new GM will be. Maybe it's just me but if I'm interviewing for the job, I've already evaluated the roster uo and down and have a plan in place as soon as I'm hired. Quote
French Collection Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 Maybe it's just me but if I'm interviewing for the job, I've already evaluated the roster uo and down and have a plan in place as soon as I'm hired. This would be an interview question from me, tell me what you think of the current roster, player by player. Quote
inkman Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 This would be an interview question from me, tell me what you think of the current roster, player by player. I don't think TP is quite savvy enough to know if the interviewee is providing good analysis or talking out his cornhole. Quote
dudacek Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 "Evander Kane? He can play, but not the sort of character and discipline I'd want on my team, no sir!" (Whispered as Terry slips below decks to grab another bottle of Chardonnay: "did I get that right, Russ?") Quote
SwampD Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 "Evander Kane? He can play, but not the sort of character and discipline I'd want on my team, no sir!" (Whispered as Terry slips below decks to grab another bottle of Chardonnay: "did I get that right, Russ?") Quote
Radar Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 Maybe it's just me but if I'm interviewing for the job, I've already evaluated the roster uo and down and have a plan in place as soon as I'm hired. Agree with this. Character issues are not things you can evaluate on film etc. but they're usually documented if it's a real problem. I'm all for getting people as soon as we can but we don't need a panic mode hire here. Quote
Norcal Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 Murray mentioned today that McPhee owes him a favor. He said something like (paraphrasing): "Maybe i've done a deal in the past with George, maybe I've had a conversation with him reminding him of that and he remembered the wordage of that deal word for word, which I was very happy to hear"so, what happens with this now? Quote
ubkev Posted April 22, 2017 Report Posted April 22, 2017 so, what happens with this now? It's null and void. Quote
Brawndo Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 From John Wawrow Keep your eye out on a story just filed on Golden Knights GM McPhee confirming he had productive talks - but no deal - with #Sabres Murray. McPhee wasn't specific, but said potential expansion draft deal now on hold with Murray fired. Will have to revisit with new #Sabres regime. Quote
Eleven Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 From John Wawrow Keep your eye out on a story just filed on Golden Knights GM McPhee confirming he had productive talks - but no deal - with #Sabres Murray. McPhee wasn't specific, but said potential expansion draft deal now on hold with Murray fired. Will have to revisit with new #Sabres regime. AP usually publishes a story within an hour of filing (I've learned this from following Wawrow) so we should have something soon. Quote
GASabresIUFAN Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 Anyone else surprised that there hasn't been any expansion related deals yet? I mean more then just transactions with LVK, but between NHL teams looking to get something for an unprotected player or two in anticipation of the draft. (For example us getting Brodin for Minn). Quote
dudacek Posted April 27, 2017 Report Posted April 27, 2017 (edited) All the dominoes were supposed to fall after an XGMTM overpayment. Rest of the league is waiting to see if they can take advantage of the new guy. ???? Edited April 27, 2017 by dudacek Quote
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