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I would rather bring back Dougie Gilmour.

 

I'm all in favor of it, except that he goes by "Dougie."  Deal breaker.

 

Exactly.  Nobody over the age of 12 should go by Dougie.

 

Maybe it's some kind of shout out to that other Dougie.

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Nylander, Reinhart and Ristolainen for Hamilton and Gaudreau.  

Value is off here. The difference between Risto and Hamilton is very similar to the difference between Gaudreau and Reinhart, and then there's a Nylander on our side for no reason. 

 

You'd need to add that Tkachuk kid and then a small piece on our side, probably. And that's just to get the value equal, I definitely want no part of this deal even though I looooooooooooooooove Johnny hockey. 

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Nylander, Reinhart and Ristolainen for Hamilton and Gaudreau.

This makes us worse.

 

Hamilton isn't a 1D where as Risto is becoming a 1D. All the rest is merely window dressing. Cups require a strong D, and this trade proposal makes us no closer to that goal.

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But they didn't really take the next step after that deal...

Only because of injuries, ill luck, & Muckler's stubbornness. Even w/ ALL that working against them they still took the eventual SC champs to OT 3 times and lost all 4 games 4-3. :censored:

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Only because of injuries, ill luck, & Muckler's stubbornness. Even w/ ALL that working against them they still took the eventual SC champs to OT 3 times and lost all 4 games 4-3. :censored:

 

Yup.  Injuries to the two most dynamic players in the league at the worst time possible kept that trade from being the next step.

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Kane, Kulikov, and our 2nd this year for Hamilton and a prospect and we eat half of Kulikov's contract

Wouldn't be enough. Burke apparently really likes "Dougie" and says he's not gonna trade him. Would take a huge return.

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Wouldn't be enough. Burke apparently really likes "Dougie" and says he's not gonna trade him. Would take a huge return.

 

Dougie is overpayed a bit for me, and unless we can ship off Bogo and his 5 mill, I don't need Dougie.

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Dougie is overpayed a bit for me, and unless we can ship off Bogo and his 5 mill, I don't need Dougie.

We can find our own Doug, on the roof of a Vegas casino. If he's not claimed by the Golden Knights.

 

Or eaten by a tiger.

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If it is not enough, so be it. He has another 5 years at 5.75. He won't be a top pairing here.

 

Frankly, I think our best chance to get a potential top 4 guy is at the deadline. Anaheim is going to need cheap scoring help at the deadline and is bursting to the seams with D and top D prospects. They also have cap issues, and expansion issues. We an help.

We trade them Kane, eat 1/2 of Kane's deal this season for Theodore and Bieksa. We can afford the extra year on Bieksa's deal because we get rid of Kane's salary, plus Franson comes off the books. I'd even do the deal for Montour.

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If it is not enough, so be it. He has another 5 years at 5.75. He won't be a top pairing here.

 

Frankly, I think our best chance to get a potential top 4 guy is at the deadline. Anaheim is going to need cheap scoring help at the deadline and is bursting to the seams with D and top D prospects. They also have cap issues, and expansion issues. We an help.

We trade them Kane, eat 1/2 of Kane's deal this season for Theodore and Bieksa. We can afford the extra year on Bieksa's deal because we get rid of Kane's salary, plus Franson comes off the books. I'd even do the deal for Montour.

 

I want no part of Bieksa, but I do like Montour and Theodore.   I'd even go Kane for Montour and a pick.   

 

That said, Kane's been playing well but how long can he stay out of trouble and healthy.

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I want no part of Bieksa, but I do like Montour and Theodore.   I'd even go Kane for Montour and a pick.   

 

That said, Kane's been playing well but how long can he stay out of trouble and healthy.

They can't afford to take Kane off our hands without giving us a contract back and that is the reason for Bieksa.

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