Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 25, 2017 Report Posted February 25, 2017 Duda, i think it is perfectly reasonable to think we should be eventually move Sam back to center as our third center. However, I somewhat disagree that Sam can't be a very good winger long-term. We have seen him be effective as a net front presence and now as a playmaker. This isn't to different then Patrick Kane. Im not saying Samson is as good or will be as good as Kane, but he has many of the same attributes. That said, if we can get 20+ goal type performance from guys like Nylander, Bailey, and Baptiste, moving Sam to 3rd center could be a luxury we can afford. I really like Bailey and Baptiste, but I don't think that they will develop into consistent 20 goal scorers. Nylander, on the other hand, I would be very surprised if he isn't. Quote
Thorner Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Duda, i think it is perfectly reasonable to think we should be eventually move Sam back to center as our third center. However, I somewhat disagree that Sam can't be a very good winger long-term. We have seen him be effective as a net front presence and now as a playmaker. This isn't to different then Patrick Kane. Im not saying Samson is as good or will be as good as Kane, but he has many of the same attributes. That said, if we can get 20+ goal type performance from guys like Nylander, Bailey, and Baptiste, moving Sam to 3rd center could be a luxury we can afford. Sam would be a very good winger. But his abilities wouldn't be best maximized there. The idea is that he can become a great centre, but probably only a very good winger. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Sam Reinhart has the brains and the hands be an elite centre, somewhere between Bergeron and Sedin. He does not have the skill set to be an elite winger; he lacks the size, speed and shot. His upside on the wing isn't much more than we see now, sort of a better Brad Boyes, a Thomas Vanek without the shot, but with some defence. I have no time for "but who's going to be on the third line?" rigid arguments. The best Sabres team in the past 20 years had Drury, Briere and Connolly on different lines. What's wrong with the option of having an elite player out every shift? Kyle and Ryan; Jack and Alex; Sam and Evander. Let those guys roll. Mix and match the best of Carrier, Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey, Rodrigues, Pu, Asplund, Larsson, Foligno and Girgensons into the other six spots around them If there's one thing I want to die a horrible death, it's the top-6 bottom-6 dichotomy, where anything other than top-6 is considered where the lesser talent belongs. Phil Kessel was Pittsburgh's third best forward...a top-3 forward, if you will. He played on the "third" line. Quote
Huckleberry Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 I want a 1 - 2 - 3 punch down the middle with Eichel - O'Reilly - Reinhart. We got wingers coming up from rochester to fill in the holes. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 I want a 1 - 2 - 3 punch down the middle with Eichel - O'Reilly - Reinhart. We got wingers coming up from rochester to fill in the holes. Angry NS will show up a lot if Reino does not end up a centre on this team long-term. Quote
Georgia Blizzard Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 post-deadline, after team admits this is not a playoff year, Reinhart should center 3rd line and populate the wings with Rochester talent (Carrier, Bailey, Baptiste and maybe give Fasching a look) If our top 3 centers were Eichel - ROR - Reinhart -- that would definitely be SC contending quality Quote
inkman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 I want a 1 - 2 - 3 punch down the middle with Eichel - O'Reilly - Reinhart. We got wingers coming up from rochester to fill in the holes. Until one of Carrier, Bailey, Fasching, or Nylander is a better winger than Samson, he'll probably be there. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Until one of Carrier, Bailey, Fasching, or Nylander is a better winger than Samson, he'll probably be there. I suspect that Nylander will be with the Sabres next season and Samson will be moved to centre permanently. Well, maybe suspect is not the right word, as it is only what I want to happen. All bets are off with what the Sabres will do. Quote
inkman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 I suspect that Nylander will be with the Sabres next season and Samson will be moved to centre permanently. Well, maybe suspect is not the right word, as it is only what I want to happen. All bets are off with what the Sabres will do. Alex just hasn't shown much in the A. I'm hoping he takes a big leap next season. Quote
tom webster Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Alex just hasn't shown much in the A. I'm hoping he takes a big leap next season. Have you seen stats of previous teenagers in AHL? He falls right in middle. No guarantees but this year nothing to be concerned about. Quote
inkman Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Have you seen stats of previous teenagers in AHL? He falls right in middle. No guarantees but this year nothing to be concerned about. I get it but it would have been awesome if he was lighting it up. He'll probably be fine. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted February 26, 2017 Report Posted February 26, 2017 Vanek is the right answer to be honest. Quote
Thorner Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 Until one of Carrier, Bailey, Fasching, or Nylander is a better winger than Samson, he'll probably be there. Almost certainly true while Bylsma is here, but I would argue that our line-up would still be best maximized with Sam at centre, even if the winger shuffling in upon Sam's move isn't as good as he is. Quote
Claude Balls Posted February 27, 2017 Report Posted February 27, 2017 I can't vote because the league has changed so much since DA. He would be my first vote, but TV was just as good in the modern era. Quote
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