GoPre Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Even if he does fix the roster and we squeak into the playoffs, so what? At this point the couple of games we have won down the stretch is in spite of Bylsma. All that does is delay the inevitable firing of DD, and our window of our players' primes grows smaller and smaller Freidman seems to agree with you. It appears as though if the 4-5 cornerstones of this team really have a problem with Dan, he's gone. So, Jack, time to show the world what being a millenial is all about! Fixed. I agree w/ canning the guy. But for pr reasons or organization credibility wait until the season is over. Edited March 24, 2017 by GoPre
matter2003 Posted March 24, 2017 Author Report Posted March 24, 2017 Yup, no Levy fan here. He took a team that should have steamrolled to a Superbowl win in 91, and managed to lose to a team that they'd beaten in the regular season, AND a team playing its backup QB. That 90-91 team was an amazing team - Levy got outcoached by the Tuna, plain and simple. And Bellichick...don't forget he basically created the blueprint for how to stop those teams, or at least slow them down.
Sabre fan Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I think it is safe to assume that if we had signed babs instead of Blysma, we'd be in the playoffs and the Leafs would not. babs is getting amazing mileage out of his players and has them playing on the same page. Obviously the same can't be said for Blysma...these days in the NHL a good offense is the best defense, which is to say that puck possession is everything these days. The other team cannot score (or even get many shots or chances) if you have the puck more then them. Our puck possession is awful but that is Blysma's system (Lindy's too over in dallas where it ain't working either). They preach the old try and score early then hang on and allow the other team to keep coming at you...in Lerner's defense he faces alot of rubber as our team allows the opponents to keep firing away at will. We desperately need someone who allows a free-flowing offensive style system...we have the players to play that way and I still think we have more talent the n the Leafs but are not using our players properly
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I am confident in saying that the Sabres would not be in the playoffs this season no matter who the head coach was. The roster still has too many glaring holes for that. The Leaves, while better coached, have a roster that is better overall, not by much mind you, than the Sabres right now. Combine that with a better coach and there you go.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I don't want to just be in the playoffs. Be better than the playoffs.
Stoner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I don't want to just be in the playoffs. Be better than the playoffs. And there it is, right out of the suffering playbook. The fans bought it.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 And there it is, right out of the suffering playbook. The fans bought it. Ya lost me
Stoner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 Ya lost me In the postseason presser after the shortened 2013 season, Darcy introduced the idea of "suffering" to the fans. The tank was at hand. He explained the philosophy behind it by saying some franchises only do enough to make the playoffs, then hope to catch fire and make a run. "It's not only about making the playoffs" in Buffalo, he said. They wanted to build a dominant team that would be perennial contenders and win Cups. To do that, fans would have to abandon their hopes of "just" making the playoffs, like fans of almost every other franchise get to do, almost every year, for a period of time (to this day, an undetermined period of time). It might have been noble, but it was a catastrophic mistake, as we're seeing. They won the battle and lost the war, along with their soul. And ours. It was an owner throwing up his hands and saying, "Hey, we tried. There's nothing we can do now except suck and hope to have success handed to us. We're not smart enough to do it any other way." I was thinking the unthinkable just last night — with his burning desire to own something that's unownable, to realize his dream of possessing "his" team, Pegula might very well have extinguished the last best hope of winning a Cup, which was OSP and his team of Quinn, DiPofi, Regier and Ruff. It seems laughable, but at least his ownership made sense. He saved the franchise and got us close. More importantly, he didn't know a puck from a meatball and he admitted as much. Screw Terry and screw the return key.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 In the postseason presser after the shortened 2013 season, Darcy introduced the idea of "suffering" to the fans. The tank was at hand. He explained the philosophy behind it by saying some franchises only do enough to make the playoffs, then hope to catch fire and make a run. "It's not only about making the playoffs" in Buffalo, he said. They wanted to build a dominant team that would be perennial contenders and win Cups. To do that, fans would have to abandon their hopes of "just" making the playoffs, like fans of almost every other franchise get to do, almost every year, for a period of time (to this day, an undetermined period of time). It might have been noble, but it was a catastrophic mistake, as we're seeing. They won the battle and lost the war, along with their soul. And ours. It was an owner throwing up his hands and saying, "Hey, we tried. There's nothing we can do now except suck and hope to have success handed to us. We're not smart enough to do it any other way." I was thinking the unthinkable just last night — with his burning desire to own something that's unownable, to realize his dream of possessing "his" team, Pegula might very well have extinguished the last best hope of winning a Cup, which was OSP and his team of Quinn, DiPofi, Regier and Ruff. It seems laughable, but at least his ownership made sense. He saved the franchise and got us close. More importantly, he didn't know a puck from a meatball and he admitted as much. Screw Terry and screw the return key. Well this is just garbage
Stoner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 Well this is just garbage So is the result.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) So is the result. We have the NHL leader in points over the last 3 months, on the worst possession team in the league, and he's 20 years old. This result has nothing to do with the tank As far as not being smart enough, there have been dozens of articles and studies that have proven tanking is the best way to accumulate high end talent and have high end, sustainable winning. If anything they were finally smart enough to realize what they'd been doing for the last 10 years wasn't working. The only issue I have is why they haven't figured the same thing out with the Bills Edited March 24, 2017 by WildCard
That Aud Smell Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 As far as not being smart enough, there have been dozens of articles and studies that have proven tanking is the best way to accumulate high end talent and have high end, sustainable winning. If anything they were finally smart enough to realize what they'd been doing for the last 10 years wasn't working. Word to big bird.
Stoner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 We have the NHL leader in points over the last 3 months, on the worst possession team in the league, and he's 20 years old. This result has nothing to do with the tank As far as not being smart enough, there have been dozens of articles and studies that have proven tanking is the best way to accumulate high end talent and have high end, sustainable winning. If anything they were finally smart enough to realize what they'd been doing for the last 10 years wasn't working. The only issue I have is why they haven't figured the same thing out with the Bills Links?
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 (edited) Well this is just garbageI agree with you, but only in so far to say that the only garbage in PA's awesome post was saying that it (I assume the tank) was certainly not noble. Worst decision in Sabres history was the recent tank. Edited March 24, 2017 by Sabres Fan In NS
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I agree with you, but only in so far to say that the only garbage in PA's awesome post was saying that it (I assume the tank) was certainly was not noble. Worst decision in Sabres history was the recent tank. Curious to know why you think that Links? When I have time later tonight
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 Curious to know why you think that When I have time later tonight My feelings on the tank are well known. I am not willing to revisit it. You can search it if you like.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 My feelings on the tank are well known. I am not willing to revisit it. You can search it if you like. I know how you feel about it, I was just wondering if it was an ethical or roster issue
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I know how you feel about it, I was just wondering if it was an ethical or roster issue Strictly ethical. Read ... unethical.
WildCard Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 Strictly ethical. Read ... unethical. Well I can't really argue with you there, nor would I want to change your mind in that regard. But, if it was a roster complaint :flirt: :beer:
Stoner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Posted March 24, 2017 I agree with you, but only in so far to say that the only garbage in PA's awesome post was saying that it (I assume the tank) was certainly not noble. Worst decision in Sabres history was the recent tank. Not the tank, but one reasoning behind it (we're not interested in just making the playoffs etc. etc.).
kas23 Posted March 25, 2017 Report Posted March 25, 2017 I agree with you, but only in so far to say that the only garbage in PA's awesome post was saying that it (I assume the tank) was certainly not noble. Worst decision in Sabres history was the recent tank. Serious question: would you not tank and not have Eichel or tank and have Eichel?
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 25, 2017 Report Posted March 25, 2017 Serious question: would you not tank and not have Eichel or tank and have Eichel? I hated the tank and was steadfastly against it. So, I would rather not have tanked and would be happy not having Eichel.
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