WildCard Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 No, Ennis is in Tim Connolly territory....a player who was on the cusp of becoming a star that got a very bad concussion and never was anything close to the same player again. Ennis was a first round pick. He was doing what he was supposed to do, if that....he has never had more than 49 points in a season...that constitures "over producing" as a first round pick these days??Good comparableMy guess is you were looking at total scoring, while WC's numbers are even strength.Yup. 5v5 to be specific
ubkev Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 No, Ennis is in Tim Connolly territory....a player who was on the cusp of becoming a star that got a very bad concussion and never was anything close to the same player again. Ennis was a first round pick. He was doing what he was supposed to do, if that....he has never had more than 49 points in a season...that constitures "over producing" as a first round pick these days?? Eh, Ennis couldn't carry Tim Connolly's jock.
Drunkard Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 ill be open to him returning next year if he agrees that he has to simplify his system. I believe this is what Tortorella did this past summer with his coaching style. One thing Tortorella has changed for the Blue Jackets this season is doing away with morning skates. In an interview with NHL.com, Tortorella talked about allowing players to play and not over-coaching them. "(Players) get on the ice and they can't think straight because there's so much information," Tortorella told Tim Campbell. "I think that's one of the biggest adjustments all coaches are making now, including me, is to let them play. Give them a foundation but let them play and get out of their way. "But if it's the same mistake and it is constant and if it's something you can control through laziness and just not the will to play, that's part of my job to lean on them that way. It's ever-changing. We're just trying to go about our business." if Torts can change, Bylsma can too. I hate seeing a coaching carousel. Though the exist interviews with Murray and the team leaders (Eichel, ROR, etc) could doom him. Wasn't this what he was supposed to be doing during his year long studying of the game and creating an innovative approach or whatever he called it? I have no faith in DB to do this because it feels like all the complaints about DB are the exact ones that Pittsburgh fans were complaining about for years. Eerily similar. I believe if I went on HF boards and dug up their complaints and substituted O'Reilly's name for Crosby, Eichel's name for Malkin, and Lehner's name for Fleury, and our defensemen's names in for their guys, most of us wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Brawndo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach.
Randall Flagg Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### Luckily we're a catastrophically bad even strength team.
Guest Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### Makes sense. Now we'll know when GMTM fixes the D if the problem is the roster or DD. If GMTM gets a real No.3 D for this team and the team stays healthy it still fails, then DD will be gone by Turkey Day! Wildcard FYI: DD won the Jack Adams 2010-11 when he lost Crosby and Malkin for much of the season and still the team earned 106 pts. Edited March 23, 2017 by yse325
TrueBlueGED Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### 1) This sounds like speculation more than reporting information. 2) The end of season player interviews will save us.
Stoner Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### It won't be the money, it will be the reputation that Pegula will want to save. He had to have been stung by the publicity surrounding Ryan's firing. 1) This sounds like speculation more than reporting information. 2) The end of season player interviews will save us. Channeling GoDD here. McKenzie is very plugged into the Sabres' front office. If Bob says it, bank it. Sorry, kid.
Brawndo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Channeling GoDD here. McKenzie is very plugged into the Sabres' front office. If Bob says it, bank it. Sorry, kid. This is why my original post ended in
Brawndo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Makes sense. Now we'll know when GMTM fixes the D if the problem is the roster or DD. If GMTM gets a real No.3 D for this team and the team stays healthy it still fails, then DD will be gone by Turkey Day! The problem with this scenario is that the pool of candidates will be significantly smaller and the Sabres will spend December-April trying to play catch up to the final playoff spots, while the Leafs are battling for the President's Trophy.
Derrico Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### off. If this happens I'm immediately moving into the gmtm needs to go camp.
WildCard Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 ###### off. If this happens I'm immediately moving into the gmtm needs to go camp. I'm immediately moving into the Pegula camp
Randall Flagg Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 If Rex Ryan truly has something to do with how they handle the coach of the Buffalo Sabres this offseason, I'm beyond pissed. I'm not convinced Bob is right, though.
Guest Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) The problem with this scenario is that the pool of candidates will be significantly smaller and the Sabres will spend December-April trying to play catch up to the final playoff spots, while the Leafs are battling for the President's Trophy. We can't worry about Tor. However the candidate issue is easily solved. One we can replace Terry Murray and Lambert with better coaches and guys you might consider for the head job. Pitt seems to find good coaches for the baby Pens and promote mid season. Stl hired Yeo as an ast in the NHL and promoted him when they dumped Hitch. Other guys always come available, like Julien for example. We also came up with 15 good names on the next coach thread. I'm sure some will be available. Edited March 23, 2017 by yse325
TrueBlueGED Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 It won't be the money, it will be the reputation that Pegula will want to save. He had to have been stung by the publicity surrounding Ryan's firing. Channeling GoDD here. McKenzie is very plugged into the Sabres' front office. If Bob says it, bank it. Sorry, kid. If Rex Ryan truly has something to do with how they handle the coach of the Buffalo Sabres this offseason, I'm beyond pissed. I'm not convinced Bob is right, though. There's a huge amount of wiggle room in what McKenzie said. What is catastrophic? I mean, they're 10-15 since February started, and have 3 wins in their last 10. If the players (the important ones) speak against him and they finish the stretch playing under .500 hockey...does that qualify? McKenzie also said "want"...I mean, of course Pegula wouldn't *want* to pay a second coach not to coach for 3 more years, but that doesn't say he wouldn't if Murray came to him with the recommendation.
Andrew Amerk Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I have no doubt that Babcock is a better coach then DD. I have also never said that DD isn't part of the problem. My point has always been that simply changing the coach isn't going to solve the problems here. If we come back with Kulikov, Franson and Gorges, as many here want us to do, don't be surprised, regardless of who is the coach, that any improvement will be marginal. There is a reason excellent coaches like Quennville, Julien, Babcock, Sutter didn't win Cups at earlier coaching stops. They didn't have the horses. Dave Tippett is supoosed to be an excellent coach. His teams in AZ stink. Why? He doesn't have a good roster and won't for years to come. Many here think Lindy Ruff is an excellent coach. How is he doing this yesr in Dallas without a D or adequate goalies? Is Arizona situation Dave Tippett's fault? Is he not coaching them up? Making coaching changes is easy, but in our case it won't solve anything other then making some fans and a couple players happy. Meh. Nolan got a lot out of an inadequate Latvian team.
Brawndo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 We can't worry about Tor. However the candidate issue is easily solved. One we can replace Terry Murray and Lambert with better coaches and guys you might consider for the head job. Pitt seems to find good coaches for the baby Pens and promote mid season. Stl hired Yeo as an ast in the NHL and promoted him when they dumped Hitch. Other guys always come available, like Julien for example. We also came up with 15 good names on the next coach thread. I'm sure some will be available. Considering Toronto would be a first or second round matchup for the Sabres, they do need to be worried about especially with a better coach and a better roster. I would not bet on Lambert being replaced, considering the fact that the Amerks have a worse roster then the Sabres, especially after the call ups. If that's Murray's Reasoning for keeping DD, Lambert probably gets a pass as well. Mike Yeo agreed to be an Asst with STL, with the understanding that Hitch was retiring at the end of the year either way and Yeo was the next HC Julien is an elite coach and him becoming available is an exception, not the norm. The Sabres haven't proven themselves to be anything like Pittsburgh yet. There are 15 coaches on that list, but how many will be available mid season? 2 or 3 maybe? I would rather choose from all 15, something that can only be done in April thru June. Now if Knoblauch, Keefe or Gallant agree to be an Asst here, that would be reassuring. However I do remember some angst on the board when in both off-seasons DD has been here it has taking him much longer to fill out his staff. Is this an indication working with DD might not be that desirable?
Guest Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I'll say this for DD's staff, Woods and goalie coach Andrew Allen have done a pretty amazing job with the pp and goalies.
Stoner Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I'm immediately moving into the ###### Pegula camp Come on over! I get lonely. Do you like beans and weenies?
Brawndo Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I'll say this for DD's staff, Woods and goalie coach Andrew Allen have done a pretty amazing job with the pp and goalies. I agree with this, however Woods or Allen are not ready for a HC Gig especially on a team that has to make the playoffs next season
MattPie Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I'm moving to the cancel NHL.tv and f' it, maybe I'll listen to a few on the radio when I think of it, camp. Or is that a bunker?
WildCard Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 (edited) “I think I’m going to go down to their practice on Friday,” indicated NHL Insider Elliotte Friedman during a Wednesday afternoon segment on NHL Network. “I thought there was a really interesting article by Mike Harrington of the Buffalo News in last Saturday’s newspaper when they were in Anaheim, and basically he wondered if some of the players were trying to tank the end of the season so that Bylsma would be let go. “If I’m the owner here, I’m really wondering. He’s in Year Two of a five-year contract. Is it too soon? Is it really that bad? “… in Bylsma’s previous job he did some butting heads and battling with the two superstar forwards Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin. To me, I think the biggest question I have is is this repairable. Is this fixable. If I’m the owner, I’m not necessarily saying I’m so willing to get rid of a coach and pay him for three years to do nothing. I want to take him and my star player, who is Jack Eichel, and I want to sit them down and say, ‘Guys, is there a way that this is fixable.’ “But there’s no question that the rumblings are out there. There’s no question there’s rumblings about the relationship between him and the general manager, Tim Murray. I’m surprised, but as you can see the story is growing and growing and growing. “But if I’m the owner, I’m saying, ‘Alright, I’d rather sort this out than have to pay somebody for three years to go somewhere and do nothing. ..... “I don’t think there’s anybody who thought the Buffalo Sabres were going to be a definite playoff contender this year,” suggested Mears. “Plus you have all of the injuries. So isn’t it a little bit early, and wouldn’t some winning next year solve a lot of these problems?” “Winning solves everything,” agreed Friedman. “It’s funny how fast things change in this sport. You look at Marc Bergevin’s first two years in Montreal, everybody loved him. And then he has a rough third year because Carey Price gets hurt. He trades P.K. Subban and now it’s almost like he’s got no cachet with the fan base anymore. “I agree with you. This was a big rebuild job in Buffalo. It says to me that the issue here, by reading that story, I don’t think the issue here is as much the amount of games they’re winning or losing – but it sounds like it’s a style question. Do the players there, and particularly your star player – your cornerstone franchise player – do they feel that the system they play is maximum for utilizing their talents and winning games. “Whoever coaches in Buffalo is not going to have a winning team yet. They still need to add more pieces, particularly in the blueline, and I thought it was really good that Tim Murray acknowledged that in a radio interview locally yesterday. “But this to me, when I read between the lines I don’t see a winning and losing problem as much as I see a philosophy issue. And that’s why I think you have to sit there as the owner and say, ‘Can I force these guys to get it fixed.’” https://www.fanragsports.com/nhl/friedman-weighs-speculation-bylsmas-future-sabres/ Edited March 23, 2017 by WildCard
WildCard Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Makes sense. Now we'll know when GMTM fixes the D if the problem is the roster or DD. If GMTM gets a real No.3 D for this team and the team stays healthy it still fails, then DD will be gone by Turkey Day! Wildcard FYI: DD won the Jack Adams 2010-11 when he lost Crosby and Malkin for much of the season and still the team earned 106 pts. Even if he does fix the roster and we squeak into the playoffs, so what? At that point we're just winning in spite of Byslma. All that does is delay the inevitable firing of DD, and our window of our players' primes grows smaller and smaller 1) This sounds like speculation more than reporting information. 2) The end of season player interviews will save us. Freidman seems to agree with you. It appears as though if the 4-5 cornerstones of this team really have a problem with Dan, he's gone. So, Jack, time to show the world what being a millenial is all about!
Mustache of God Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 Bob McKenzie was on NBCSN Tonight and said barring some catastrophe he expects Bylsma to be back next year. Brought up the Pegulas probably not wanting to pay both Ryan and Bylsma not to coach. ###### Is this entire season not considered a catastrophe? I hope the player interviews are scathing and push GMTM to send DB packing.
Drunkard Posted March 23, 2017 Report Posted March 23, 2017 I'm immediately moving into the ###### Pegula camp I'm right there with you. Come on over! I get lonely. Do you like beans and weenies? Room for one more? This sure as hell isn't the hockey heaven I signed on for.
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