Jsixspd Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 I bet Bylsma is hoping that Eichel will save his job for him with stellar performance when he returns; because Eichel's absence is pretty much his only excuse/final straw that he can grasp at to excuse the poor play of this 3rd year rebuild team. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 (edited) I think that's debatable,… and irrelevant. To say that we aren't scoring because of DDB's system and using the Ranger's roster as an example seems like folly to me. That's not why I added the Rangers' roster. I said "if anyone is wondering what the best in the league looks like" and laid it out. A center spine of Stepan-Hayes-Pirri-Jooris, and nice wing depth that doesn't contain a player who's scored more than what, 60-65 points in the last few seasons? We aren't a decade from having depth like that, and already have high end skill capable of 60 points, but they're comically better at scoring than us (and a lot of the league, even teams with much better talent) But never anywhere did I say that the Rangers roster was another example. I explicitly stated otherwise. And said later that it's not yet fair to compare us to the best in the league, which is why I pulled a bunch of bottom ten teams up, and got embarrassed by the difference in numbers anyway. Edited November 24, 2016 by Randall Flagg Quote
dudacek Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 Past performance would indicate Eichel, ROR, Kane, Okposo, Reinhart and Ennis should have combined for about 80 points by now. They have about 30 and from our depth guys only Moulson has stepped up offensively in the gap. Quote
LGR4GM Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 When was the last time you saw a cross ice pass in the offensive zone? They always toss it along the boards down low or bank to the defender. The system is . It's entirely on defenders not blocking your point shot. It's awful Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 I didn't say those were folly, although, any reference to Tortorella being something we should aspire to needs a healthy dose of reflection. I believe it was more incredulity that Tortorella coaches a more offensive game than does Bylsma. In a "you know you have problems if Torts has a better offensive approach" kind of way. Quote
Iron Crotch Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 When was the last time you saw a cross ice pass in the offensive zone? They always toss it along the boards down low or bank to the defender. The system is ######. It's entirely on defenders not blocking your point shot. It's awful Murray & Bylsma are building a team and playing a system for the game 10 years ago, not today's game, which is all about speed, skating ability, and puck skill. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 I believe it was more incredulity that Tortorella coaches a more offensive game than does Bylsma. In a "you know you have problems if Torts has a better offensive approach" kind of way.Yes. Quote
SwampD Posted November 24, 2016 Report Posted November 24, 2016 Just for the record, the Rangers line up is significantly more skilled than what we have on the ice, by a lot. I stand by my original post. Which is really all I was saying. Quote
matter2003 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Posted November 26, 2016 Let the Fire Bylsma Watch begin... Quote
inkman Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 Let the Fire Bylsma Watch begin... Just cuz some fans want it, doesn't make it so. Quote
matter2003 Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Posted November 26, 2016 Maybe they can make it an early Christmas present Quote
Jacque Richard Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 Bring in Billy Inglis. Might be deceased? Quote
pi2000 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 When was the last time a player in juniors was called up mid-season? It's not allowed. He can come up only after his junior season is over. That said Pu is a nice prospect, but I don't see him as a future NHL player.... maybe a depth guy but nothing more. Quote
wjag Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 This goal a game pace is exciting Quote
qwksndmonster Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 It's not allowed. He can come up only after his junior season is over. That said Pu is a nice prospect, but I don't see him as a future NHL player.... maybe a depth guy but nothing more. That settles it. Pu is destined for greatness. Quote
ubkev Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 It's not allowed. He can come up only after his junior season is over. This is incorrect. Emergency recalls can be used on players in juniors. That said, no shot they call this kid up from junior. Quote
pi2000 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 This is incorrect. Emergency recalls can be used on players in juniors. That said, no shot they call this kid up from junior. What exactly constitutes an emergency, and has it ever been done? Quote
ubkev Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 What exactly constitutes an emergency, and has it ever been done? 3 injuries constitute an emergency. Calgary did it in '12 Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 26, 2016 Report Posted November 26, 2016 21 games played so far....12 of them (over 57%) they have scored 0 or 1 goals. I think percentage would be some kid of record. For the ENTIRE SEASON so far...there is almost a 60% chance that a game we watch will see 0 or 1 goals by the Sabres. Quote
pi2000 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 3 injuries constitute an emergency. Calgary did it in '12 Are they allowed to be sent back? I guess they would have to be... or is there some number of games where their rookie deal kicks in as under normal conditions? Quote
ubkev Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Are they allowed to be sent back? I guess they would have to be... or is there some number of games where their rookie deal kicks in as under normal conditions? I would assume they could be sent back once the emergency was over. And I imagine that their contract would kick in after 9 games, as per usual. So there you have it, I assume and imagine. ...no clue lol Quote
beerme1 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 21 games played so far....12 of them (over 57%) they have scored 0 or 1 goals. I think percentage would be some kid of record. For the ENTIRE SEASON so far...there is almost a 60% chance that a game we watch will see 0 or 1 goals by the Sabres. If that's not an emergency I don't know what is! Quote
Jsixspd Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 Things would be even more dismal without a decent PP effort. Even strength goals for this season is really brutal - only 1.1 goals per game average so far. Quote
inkman Posted November 27, 2016 Report Posted November 27, 2016 It's not allowed. He can come up only after his junior season is over. That said Pu is a nice prospect, but I don't see him as a future NHL player.... maybe a depth guy but nothing more. It is hard to envision Pu being useful. Getting Pu on the PP is desired by most but it could be toxic. Especially if Pu is on the PP and then inserts himself into the crease repeatedly. It can get a little hairy so we'll have to ensure the crease is free and clear. Also, The D may push Pu right into the open mouth of the goal. It takes a special kinda goalie to allow this type of play. I'd suggest monitoring how often they visit the ATM. Quote
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