JujuFish Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 On 11/1/2022 at 2:11 PM, Huckleberry said: Star trek is ruined for me even more now. If you haven't seen Star Trek Lower Decks, and you don't explicitly hate animated shows, you should check it out. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, JujuFish said: If you haven't seen Star Trek Lower Decks, and you don't explicitly hate animated shows, you should check it out. I will give strange new worlds a shot soon, but it being an STD spin off ... Quote
JujuFish Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Huckleberry said: I will give strange new worlds a shot soon, but it being an STD spin off ... I haven't checked that out yet, but I've heard good things. Quote
drnkirishone Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: I will give strange new worlds a shot soon, but it being an STD spin off ... Strange new worlds is imho the best star trek since TNG. Also lower decks is an unabashed love letter to TNG. Also it is great. I get the Criticism of discovery and Picard. Personally I enjoyed both. Discovery got much better once it wasn't beholden to all the lore that was to come in the timeline. However Anson Mount was great in season 2. I equate a bunch of the hate for picard to being on the same level as the last jedi hate concerning the portrayal of Skywalker. I personally have no problem with how time has treated Jean luc. I find it pretty logical that Picard would be the way he was after experiencing all we have seen him go thru Also strange new worlds is more a prequel to the original series. I think of it as more the original series remake with modern TV tech and a modern TV budget. Edited November 3, 2022 by drnkirishone Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 Discovery is just so lazy writing - End of season 2 go to future to kill the nasty computer virus on the ship - 5 minutes into season 3 its fixed. How and why ? nobody knows, its just fixed because hey we in the future. Best show since TNG ? for me its 1. DS9 2. Enterprise ( Only 4 seasons is just a shame) 3. TNG 4.TOS 5. Voyager Suspect strange new worlds will move between TNG and Enterprise. The rest is just woke/lazy storywriting, they can shoot kurtzman up to the moon for me. Quote
SwampD Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 Not sure if it’s the 3rd or 4th time i’m watching Shoresy, but damn if it doesn't get funnier every time. If you haven’t watched it yet,… wtf is wrong with you? 1 hour ago, drnkirishone said: Another amazing episode of Andor. If you lost touch with star wars or got tired of disney star wars or the prequel era or hell just like sci-fi I urge you to check it out. I started that, it’s pretty good so far. 1 Quote
drnkirishone Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 14 hours ago, Huckleberry said: The rest is just woke/lazy storywriting Forget everything I said. Just give up on star trek Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, drnkirishone said: Forget everything I said. Just give up on star trek Come on, you actually like Discovery ? A show where they go into the future to fix a problem, then its fixed because they are in the future, but no one knows how or why ? Then you got a season long crew cryfest everytime space jesus shows up. Its one of the most Cringe television shows out there. Like I said everything after 2009 does not excist, and I know many trek fans feel the same if not most. Its so bad most of the people I play star trek online with refuse to play any discovery content. to quote kurtzmann Quote The goal is not to promote star trek, but to promote these organisations and to use our platform. Basically make nothing worth a good show, as long as we can send out "our message" . Meanwhile lets destroy every story arc written in the last 50 years. And it wouldn't even bother me as much if there was actually good writing. But after every episode you just know some dumb lazy are behind those keyboards. This is Discovery season 3 bad writing 1. Basically a Kelpian stepped on Lego, and his scream destroyed all the dilithium. 2. All dilithium gets destroyed ? fine then the romulans should win because they use singularity warp cores <-- which the dumb writers not even know or care about. 3. Destroyed Mirror universe arc 4. Destroyed romulan/vulcan arc 5. Destroyed the entire federation arc Its not good when the writers say they want to promote a message, use Star trek as a platform for their message, but then also say they never were interested in the history of it all and just make ***** up as they go along. Edited November 3, 2022 by Huckleberry Quote
drnkirishone Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Come on, you actually like Discovery ? A show where they go into the future to fix a problem, then its fixed because they are in the future, but no one knows how or why ? Then you got a season long crew cryfest everytime space jesus shows up. Its one of the most Cringe television shows out there. Like I said everything after 2009 does not excist, and I know many trek fans feel the same if not most. Its so bad most of the people I play star trek online with refuse to play any discovery content. to quote kurtzmann Basically make nothing worth a good show, as long as we can send out "our message" . Meanwhile lets destroy every story arc written in the last 50 years. And it wouldn't even bother me as much if there was actually good writing. But after every episode you just know some dumb lazy are behind those keyboards. This is Discovery season 3 bad writing 1. Basically a Kelpian stepped on Lego, and his scream destroyed all the dilithium. 2. All dilithium gets destroyed ? fine then the romulans should win because they use singularity warp cores <-- which the dumb writers not even know or care about. 3. Destroyed Mirror universe arc 4. Destroyed romulan/vulcan arc 5. Destroyed the entire federation arc Its not good when the writers say they want to promote a message, use Star trek as a platform for their message, but then also say they never were interested in the history of it all and just make ***** up as they go along. I have played STO for a long time and considering the "discussions" that happen in chat channels in that game I would not use that as confirmation of something being bad. You have made clear that your concern is the "woke" culture. I have nothing further to say to you on the subject of star trek. Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 3, 2022 Report Posted November 3, 2022 1 hour ago, drnkirishone said: I have played STO for a long time and considering the "discussions" that happen in chat channels in that game I would not use that as confirmation of something being bad. You have made clear that your concern is the "woke" culture. I have nothing further to say to you on the subject of star trek. Dunno, I think STO is pretty reasonable when it comes to chats, every game has its % of nutters. But mostly pretty reasonable nice gamers on STO. And the agenda being spewed out on Discovery is woke, its just a name for putting agenda > story. Its a very divisive and bigot agenda and they don't even realize it themselves. Quote
ubkev Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 We're 2 episodes into Yellowstone. Loving it so far. Quote
JujuFish Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Huckleberry said: Dunno, I think STO is pretty reasonable when it comes to chats, every game has its % of nutters. But mostly pretty reasonable nice gamers on STO. And the agenda being spewed out on Discovery is woke, its just a name for putting agenda > story. Its a very divisive and bigot agenda and they don't even realize it themselves. I find that people who use the term 'woke' negatively don't even know what the term means. You are no exception. Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JujuFish said: I find that people who use the term 'woke' negatively don't even know what the term means. You are no exception. Yeah well, really don't have any other way to describe dumbass hollywood agenda. I don't care if its either right or left, both sides are stupid as *****. And woke=left for me , if the right gets a nice term I will use it for them too. Anyway I will stop this discussion now. Edited November 4, 2022 by Huckleberry Quote
JujuFish Posted November 4, 2022 Report Posted November 4, 2022 24 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: And woke=left for me Thank you for proving my point. Quote
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 4, 2022 Author Report Posted November 4, 2022 9 hours ago, JujuFish said: Thank you for proving my point. The term *woke* was so successfully highjaked that no one knows what it really means and the origins. The definition is still out there, but nobody ever looks it up. Quote
SABRESfan Posted November 7, 2022 Report Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 7:13 PM, JujuFish said: Thank you for proving my point. Will you ever reach your full woke potential? What have you done to meet your wokeness quota lately? Quote
shrader Posted November 7, 2022 Report Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 7:27 AM, Sabres Fan in NS said: The term *woke* was so successfully highjaked that no one knows what it really means and the origins. The definition is still out there, but nobody ever looks it up. Remember when it used to be past tense? 1 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 7, 2022 Report Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/4/2022 at 12:27 PM, Sabres Fan in NS said: The term *woke* was so successfully highjaked that no one knows what it really means and the origins. The definition is still out there, but nobody ever looks it up. Yeah I guess it completely misses my point by using it. 1 Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 7, 2022 Report Posted November 7, 2022 Just not sure how to call it, when writers disregard 60 years of source material and rather want to push an Ideological and poltical agenda. Quote
drnkirishone Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 Dude.... andor..... Andy Serkis deserves awards and accolades 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted November 9, 2022 Report Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) On 11/2/2022 at 11:04 PM, Huckleberry said: I will give strange new worlds a shot soon, but it being an STD spin off ... Took me 2 episodes to get used to Strange New Worlds, but by the end of it, you just might conisder Strange New Worlds a contender for the best trek show ever. Also, whether its the acting or how the role is written, Pike comes across as the most likeable captain ever in trek, if not the best overall. Lower Decks? I like it, but it doesnt' seem like a full 'Trek' series to me. More a decent-to-good generic cartoon that just happens to be set in the Star Trek universe and likes to make a TON of comments and name dropping from previous Trek shows and movies. Edited November 9, 2022 by mjd1001 Quote
Weave Posted November 10, 2022 Report Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, drnkirishone said: Dude.... andor..... Andy Serkis deserves awards and accolades The hairs on my forearm stood on end watching today’s episode. So good. Quote
Huckleberry Posted November 10, 2022 Report Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Took me 2 episodes to get used to Strange New Worlds, but by the end of it, you just might conisder Strange New Worlds a contender for the best trek show ever. Also, whether its the acting or how the role is written, Pike comes across as the most likeable captain ever in trek, if not the best overall. Lower Decks? I like it, but it doesnt' seem like a full 'Trek' series to me. More a decent-to-good generic cartoon that just happens to be set in the Star Trek universe and likes to make a TON of comments and name dropping from previous Trek shows and movies. Yeah I liked Pike in STD a lot, was pretty much the only good thing. Picard, STD, lower decks, not watching much if anything from those, unless im really bored. Quote
drnkirishone Posted November 10, 2022 Report Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Weave said: The hairs on my forearm stood on end watching today’s episode. So good. So distracted by Serkis I forgot to give credit to Stellan Skarsgård. The show is perfect Quote
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