2017 NHL Draft -- General NHL Thread

[Thorner]

BPA ? Hello Owen Tippett!

Great, then we can trade him in 3 years (IF he pans out) for a defensive prospect that might be able to contribute a few years after that.

 

Also, Tippett can't pass the puck, or play defence. Hard pass.

[LGR4GM]

Any good overagers in this draft Rakish? 

[rakish]

Dude... if you aren't reading my stuff, then no one is

[LGR4GM]

Dude... if you aren't reading my stuff, then no one is

There is one guy there lol

[GASabresIUFAN]

Denis Smirnov.  Looks interesting.

 

Jbot said drafting for position is difficult.  That doesn't mean it's not a factor in the creation of his list.  Even if it isn't a high priority, strict adherence to BPA in the internal list will lead to failure because the difference between players ranking a minuscule and if you continually draft forwards, you end up with little else (see TM).

 

Remember with prospects, developing D are worth more then developing forwards and goaltenders.  I would much rather overload my system with D because they are great currency.  Look at the recent Seth Jones trade, the Sergachev trade yesterday and the teams lining up to get Vatanen and Brodin and DeHaan etc....  

 

Sadly, TM decided all we needed was RW's . 

[LGR4GM]

I would put in a caveat and say developing D are more valuable than wingers. Centers are still highly valuable on all teams. 

[rakish]

There is one guy there lol

 

You want coherent and understandable too?

 

1. Smirnov

2. BRINSON PASICHNUK

3. IGOR SHVYRYOV

4. Palmu

[rakish]

The other ones I like are (more or less in value order):

 

KRISTAPS ZILE  
DYLAN COGHLAN
ANDREI ALTYBARMAKYAN
ARTYOM MANUKYAN

ROMAN IVASHOV                
JOHNNY KOVACEVIC             
WILL REILLY                   
BRENNAN MENELL                 
PAVEL YELSHANSKY              
MATTHEW BRASSARD               
Matt Timms                   
KEVIN HANCOCK                   
William Pethrus                  
 

[Two or less]

Denis Smirnov.  Looks interesting.

 

Jbot said drafting for position is difficult.  That doesn't mean it's not a factor in the creation of his list.  Even if it isn't a high priority, strict adherence to BPA in the internal list will lead to failure because the difference between players ranking a minuscule and if you continually draft forwards, you end up with little else (see TM).

 

Remember with prospects, developing D are worth more then developing forwards and goaltenders.  I would much rather overload my system with D because they are great currency.  Look at the recent Seth Jones trade, the Sergachev trade yesterday and the teams lining up to get Vatanen and Brodin and DeHaan etc....  

 

Sadly, TM decided all we needed was RW's . 

 

Struggled vs. better competition, is small and i read one scout call him "chubby". Very skilled and smart player though, wouldnt be a bad 6th or 7th round pick.

[GASabresIUFAN]

https://www.nhl.com/news/atlantic-division-team-nhl-draft-needs/c-289967334?tid=277764372

 

According to NHL.com our greatest draft need is for a scoring D.  Really?

[Lanny]

Sabres Prospects draft preview:

 

http://www.sabresprospects.com/2017/06/buffalo-sabres-2017-draft-preview.html

[shrader]

I'm a complete homer and given our potential dearth of future goalie options, I wish they could find a way to add Oettinger.  Unfortunately I think that would take a bit of maneuvering to happen.

[North Buffalo]

Interesting assessments of offensive players from Calgary's website

https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/2017-draft-class---top-right-wingers/c-290010274

[Scottysabres]

Saw the article where Bots says he's had conversations about moving up, moving down and so on.

Any chance we can move up enough to nab Maker?

[LGR4GM]

Saw the article where Bots says he's had conversations about moving up, moving down and so on.

Any chance we can move up enough to nab Maker?

Sure, we could stay put and get Makar, move up, this draft is flluid

[pi2000]

Sure, we could stay put and get Makar, move up, this draft is flluid

All draughts are fluid.

[LGR4GM]

All draughts are fluid.

draughts yes, drafts maybe

[SabresBillsFan]

Buffalo should draft Tippett or Casey Mittlestadt. Plenty of opportunities to draft defenseman plus talent on offense can be used to acquire defense

[Brawndo]

Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4.

[Crusader1969]

Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4.

 

 

Craig Button had Liljegren mocked to Arizona at 7. Would  you trade up to get him at 6? 

 

Dallas is open to trading the third pick. Would you pay a steep price to get in front of Colorado to get Makar or Heiskenen?

[GASabresIUFAN]

Updated draft tiers

1- Patrick & Hischier - I expect Hischier goes no.

2- Vilardi, Heiskanen, Makar, Middlestadt, & Glass - don't expect any of these 5 to fall to us at 8

3- Tippett, Petterson, Necas & Liljegren - take Liljegren at 8 and be happy?

4- Tolvanen, Suzuki, & Andersson

5- Rasmussen, Vesalainen, Valimaki, Kostin and Brannstrom - anyone in tiers 4 & 5 could go anywhere from top 10 to 22

6- Foote, Yamamoto, Poehling - last 3 with near unanimous support

7- Hague, Radcliffe, Vaakanainen and Thomas - appeared on 75% of the rankings 15 rankings I reviewed

8- Roberson, Oettinger, Norris, Timmins, Jokiharju and Bowers - appeared on 50 to 75% of the rankings.

9- Comtois, Lind, Chytil, & Davidsson - one of these could easily slip to us early in the 2nd rd. 1/3 of the rankings.

[Derrico]

The more I read the more I think all 3 d will be gone by 8.

[LGR4GM]

Bob McKenzie on the radio in Vancouver today mentioned there's a strong sense the Avalanche are leaning Cale Makar at 4.

If Heiskanen goes at #3, Makar #4 and Liljegren #5 that bumps players. Vegas I think goes for the best center left. That leaves Arizona who will be interesting to see and then us. We could get a really solid forward prospect at #8

Craig Button had Liljegren mocked to Arizona at 7. Would  you trade up to get him at 6? 

 

Dallas is open to trading the third pick. Would you pay a steep price to get in front of Colorado to get Makar or Heiskenen?

Not in this draft. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

If all three are gone, we trade down to get Foote or Valimaki.

[Crusader1969]

Updated draft tiers

1- Patrick & Hischier - I expect Hischier goes no.

2- Vilardi, Heiskanen, Makar, Middlestadt, & Glass - don't expect any of these 5 to fall to us at 8

3- Tippett, Petterson, Necas & Liljegren - take Liljegren at 8 and be happy?

4- Tolvanen, Suzuki, & Andersson

5- Rasmussen, Vesalainen, Valimaki, Kostin and Brannstrom - anyone in tiers 4 & 5 could go anywhere from top 10 to 22

6- Foote, Yamamoto, Poehling - last 3 with near unanimous support

7- Hague, Radcliffe, Vaakanainen and Thomas - appeared on 75% of the rankings 15 rankings I reviewed

8- Roberson, Oettinger, Norris, Timmins, Jokiharju and Bowers - appeared on 50 to 75% of the rankings.

9- Comtois, Lind, Chytil, & Davidsson - one of these could easily slip to us early in the 2nd rd. 1/3 of the rankings.

 

THAT looks pretty acCurate - I`d be tempted to put Heiskanen in the top tier. All signs for him going 3rd.

 

Im in the Minority but I still take Tippett over Liljegren in this scenario. Liljegren seems like a real roll of the dice to me and the Sabres cant afford to miss.