Pu dropped.

[inkman]

Forgive my ignorance, but are all those players either in the league of sure to make it soon? Or are some just flash in the pans?

I think the previous 5 years top 20 would be more indicative of NHL SUCCESS.

Here is 2005-2006 OHL LEADING SCORERS. Looks like a lot of also rans and never wases.

 

Team GP G A PTS +/- PPA SHA

1 Schremp, Rob LDN 57 57 88 145 17 66 0

2 Bolland, David LDN 59 57 73 130 7 55 0

3 Wolski, Wojtek BRA 56 47 81 128 21 41 5

4 Hunter, Dylan LDN 62 32 85 117 9 58 2

5 McGrath, Evan KIT 67 37 77 114 0 57 1

6 Donati, Justin TOR 62 46 63 109 16 31 4

7 Little, Bryan BAR 64 42 67 109 26 43 4

8 Tsimikalis, Peter OSH 64 29 70 99 0 32 2

9 O'Reilly, Cal WSR 68 18 81 99 2 41 4

10 Ryan, Bobby OS 59 31 64 95 -4 46 0

11 Emmerton, Cory KGN 66 26 64 90 37 23 0

12 McDonough, Ryan SAG 68 39 49 88 25 17 1

13 Stewart, Chris KGN 62 37 50 87 19 14 1

14 Birner, Michal SAG 60 31 54 85 23 28 3

15 Callahan, Ryan GUE 62 52 32 84 29 10 0

16 Blunden, Michael ER 60 46 38 84 1 15 2

17 Smolenak, Radek KGN 65 42 42 84 19 20 0

18 Bickell, Bryan WSR 67 45 38 83 19 16 0

19 Hulit, Chris OTT 67 32 51 83 15 25 0

20 Ryder, Daniel PBO 65 38 44 82 7 28 2

21 Hughes, John BELV 66 28 54 82 3 28 0

22 Kyrzakos, Jeff OS 64 33 46 79 4 26 2

23 D'Agostini, Matt GUE 66 25 54 79 18 31 3

24 Angelidis, Mike OS 68 53 25 78 -9 18 0

25 Vitarelli, Cory TOR 65 42 36 7

 

 

So he could be Bobby Ryan or Cal O'Reilly.

Edited November 28, 2016 by inkman

[Crusader1969]

Forgive my ignorance, but are all those players either in the league of sure to make it soon? Or are some just flash in the pans?

 

Here are the top 15 names that appear on the list at least once:

 

Too soon to know:   Raddysh, DeBrincat, Bracco, Pu, Mascherin,

 

In NHL: McDavid, Dvorak, Marner, Labanc (I believe playing on line with Joe Thorton), Connor Brown, Tkachuk, Domi, Ryan Strome (though may be a disappointment), Trocheck, Konecny

 

Not sure: Andrew Mangiapane - has 12 points in his first 14 AHL games though.

[inkman]

Not sure: Andrew Mangiapane - has 12 points in his first 14 AHL games though.

I hear he makes a hell of a marinara.

[LGR4GM]

I think the previous 5 years top 20 would be more indicative of NHL SUCCESS.

Here is 2005-2006 OHL LEADING SCORERS. Looks like a lot of also rans and never wases.

 

Team GP G A PTS +/- PPA SHA

1 Schremp, Rob LDN 57 57 88 145 17 66 0

2 Bolland, David LDN 59 57 73 130 7 55 0

3 Wolski, Wojtek BRA 56 47 81 128 21 41 5

4 Hunter, Dylan LDN 62 32 85 117 9 58 2

5 McGrath, Evan KIT 67 37 77 114 0 57 1

6 Donati, Justin TOR 62 46 63 109 16 31 4

7 Little, Bryan BAR 64 42 67 109 26 43 4

8 Tsimikalis, Peter OSH 64 29 70 99 0 32 2

9 O'Reilly, Cal WSR 68 18 81 99 2 41 4

10 Ryan, Bobby OS 59 31 64 95 -4 46 0

11 Emmerton, Cory KGN 66 26 64 90 37 23 0

12 McDonough, Ryan SAG 68 39 49 88 25 17 1

13 Stewart, Chris KGN 62 37 50 87 19 14 1

14 Birner, Michal SAG 60 31 54 85 23 28 3

15 Callahan, Ryan GUE 62 52 32 84 29 10 0

16 Blunden, Michael ER 60 46 38 84 1 15 2

17 Smolenak, Radek KGN 65 42 42 84 19 20 0

18 Bickell, Bryan WSR 67 45 38 83 19 16 0

19 Hulit, Chris OTT 67 32 51 83 15 25 0

20 Ryder, Daniel PBO 65 38 44 82 7 28 2

21 Hughes, John BELV 66 28 54 82 3 28 0

22 Kyrzakos, Jeff OS 64 33 46 79 4 26 2

23 D'Agostini, Matt GUE 66 25 54 79 18 31 3

24 Angelidis, Mike OS 68 53 25 78 -9 18 0

25 Vitarelli, Cory TOR 65 42 36 7

 

 

So he could be Bobby Ryan or Cal O'Reilly.

What were their ages? Because a 18yr old scoring a ton is not the same as a 20 year old scoring the same ton

[Crusader1969]

I think the previous 5 years top 20 would be more indicative of NHL SUCCESS.

Here is 2005-2006 OHL LEADING SCORERS. Looks like a lot of also rans and never wases.

 

Team GP G A PTS +/- PPA SHA

1 Schremp, Rob LDN 57 57 88 145 17 66 0

2 Bolland, David LDN 59 57 73 130 7 55 0

3 Wolski, Wojtek BRA 56 47 81 128 21 41 5

4 Hunter, Dylan LDN 62 32 85 117 9 58 2

5 McGrath, Evan KIT 67 37 77 114 0 57 1

6 Donati, Justin TOR 62 46 63 109 16 31 4

7 Little, Bryan BAR 64 42 67 109 26 43 4

8 Tsimikalis, Peter OSH 64 29 70 99 0 32 2

9 O'Reilly, Cal WSR 68 18 81 99 2 41 4

10 Ryan, Bobby OS 59 31 64 95 -4 46 0

11 Emmerton, Cory KGN 66 26 64 90 37 23 0

12 McDonough, Ryan SAG 68 39 49 88 25 17 1

13 Stewart, Chris KGN 62 37 50 87 19 14 1

14 Birner, Michal SAG 60 31 54 85 23 28 3

15 Callahan, Ryan GUE 62 52 32 84 29 10 0

16 Blunden, Michael ER 60 46 38 84 1 15 2

17 Smolenak, Radek KGN 65 42 42 84 19 20 0

18 Bickell, Bryan WSR 67 45 38 83 19 16 0

19 Hulit, Chris OTT 67 32 51 83 15 25 0

20 Ryder, Daniel PBO 65 38 44 82 7 28 2

21 Hughes, John BELV 66 28 54 82 3 28 0

22 Kyrzakos, Jeff OS 64 33 46 79 4 26 2

23 D'Agostini, Matt GUE 66 25 54 79 18 31 3

24 Angelidis, Mike OS 68 53 25 78 -9 18 0

25 Vitarelli, Cory TOR 65 42 36 7

 

 

So he could be Bobby Ryan or Cal O'Reilly.

 

why would you choose 2005-06?

 

seems like ancient history compared to todays scouting? look at the draft back in those days way more hit and miss compared to today.

[Crusader1969]

now that I had to go back and do the work right back to 2005-2006

 

Here is the list of players who outscored Pu at the same or younger age (in no particular order)

 

1) Connor McDavid

2)Taylor Raddysh 

3) Alex Debrincat

4) Mitch Marner

5) Dylan Strome

6) Matthew Tkachuk

7) Patrick Kane

8) Sam Gagner

9) Bryan Little

10) Taylor Hall

11) John Tavares

 

in the famous 2005-06 year only Rob Schremp, Wojtek Wolski, Dave Bolland and Dylan Hunter scored at a higher PPG ratio than Pu and all were at least 19 when the season started. 

 

Schremp turned 20 January of that year, Wolski turned 20 in Feb, Bolland was 19 for the entire season and Hunter was a true overager 20 for the entire season (a Sabres draft pick). 

 

Pu will turn 19 next summer

 

Bottom line is I like his chances to be an impact NHL player for the Sabres.

[Brawndo]

Might want to check out who Sportsnet feels is the biggest snub amongst the players left off Canada's WJC Camp Invitation

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/wjc-power-rankings-nine-team-canada-selection-camp-snubs/

[That Aud Smell]

Might want to check out who Sportsnet feels is the biggest snub amongst the players left off Canada's WJC Camp Invitation

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/wjc-power-rankings-nine-team-canada-selection-camp-snubs/

 

Also: Where the feck is Guhle?!

[TrueBlueGED]

Also: Where the feck is Guhle?!

Continuing his stint as overrated by Sabres fans :angel:

[Brawndo]

Also: Where the feck is Guhle?!

He is extremely surprising as well, particularly since their Blue Line is described as inexperienced

 

Kris Baker was shocked

Edited November 29, 2016 by BRAWNDO

[Randall Flagg]

Continuing his stint as overrated by Sabres fans :angel:

I'm not sure what the consensus is, but he's looking like he's got a shot to be your dream bottom 4 defenseman. 

[Tondas]

Who gives a crap about Guhle, can we get back to talking about Pu?

[pi2000]

I think these guys can still be asked to play if there are injuries or whatnot.   Doesn't really mean anything in my book, Team Canada selection process is poisoned by politics.

[LGR4GM]

I think these guys can still be asked to play if there are injuries or whatnot.   Doesn't really mean anything in my book, Team Canada selection process is poisoned by politics.

Agreed. Some of the players invited won't be allowed to go because of their NHL teams. 

[K-9]

Might want to check out who Sportsnet feels is the biggest snub amongst the players left off Canada's WJC Camp Invitation

 

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/wjc-power-rankings-nine-team-canada-selection-camp-snubs/

I liked what they had to say about Pu in the comments section. Can't wait until we are taking advantage of that speed. 

[TrueBlueGED]

I'm not sure what the consensus is, but he's looking like he's got a shot to be your dream bottom 4 defenseman.

Correct. I was simply snarking the "he would have made the team but for injury" meme that emerged over the course of the last year, leading people to think he could be our top-4 LHD answer this season. People got way ahead of themselves with Guhle is all. The concept of Guhle, if you will.

[woods-racer]

Pu is scoring at Sam Reinhart draft year pace

Ok, now That sums it up nicely.

[nfreeman]

Correct. I was simply snarking the "he would have made the team but for injury" meme that emerged over the course of the last year, leading people to think he could be our top-4 LHD answer this season. People got way ahead of themselves with Guhle is all. The concept of Guhle, if you will.

 

Yes indeedly.

[LGR4GM]

Ok, now That sums it up nicely.

he's actually scoring slightly above Reinhart's draft year pace. 

Correct. I was simply snarking the "he would have made the team but for injury" meme that emerged over the course of the last year, leading people to think he could be our top-4 LHD answer this season. People got way ahead of themselves with Guhle is all. The concept of Guhle, if you will.

Yes, they did. 

[That Aud Smell]

Correct. I was simply snarking the "he would have made the team but for injury" meme that emerged over the course of the last year, leading people to think he could be our top-4 LHD answer this season. People got way ahead of themselves with Guhle is all. The concept of Guhle, if you will.

Yes indeedly.

Yes, they did. 

 

Please, sir. That would be the (inish capped) Concept of Guhle.

 

(Or, maybe, the Guhle Hypothesis?)

[bunomatic]

Correct. I was simply snarking the "he would have made the team but for injury" meme that emerged over the course of the last year, leading people to think he could be our top-4 LHD answer this season. People got way ahead of themselves with Guhle is all. The concept of Guhle, if you will.

The concept of Guhle. And we shall call him Robert.

[Derrico]

Just bought my tickets for Oshawa against London on January 29th.  Can't wait to see him live!

[MattPie]

The concept of Guhle. And we shall call him Robert.

 

, I was going to make that joke last night but told myself, "MattPIe, you're tired and punchy". I was wrong, it's hilarious.

[bunomatic]

######, I was going to make that joke last night but told myself, "MattPIe, you're tired and punchy". I was wrong, it's hilarious.

:blush: 

[GASabresIUFAN]

I watch the London vs Owen Sound game the other day on the NHL Network. He looked pretty good; has some speed, played both special teams, and create a bunch of good opportunities. However, I doubt this kid is NHL ready. He reminds me more of Nylander vs Reinhart. Sadly, he is probably ready for the AHL, but is stuck another year in Juniors after this season because of his age.