Brawndo Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Derek Grant agrees to 2 way contract with Buffalo Per Dreger Center most recently with Flames Org. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=113822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 27g in 37 games in the A last season. Will help Roch in a big way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Go Amerks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Drafted by GMTM when he was with Ottawa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 27g in 37 games in the A last season. Will help Roch in a big way. He isn't afraid to drop the gloves either, which is nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted July 2, 2016 Report Share Posted July 2, 2016 Derek Grant. That's a good career AHLer name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Calder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 :rolleyes: :p It was a joke. ....or was it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Looks like he'll be a good add for the Amerks. Funny how when the Sabres aren't supposed to stink the Amerks might actually get & keep some talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Looks like he'll be a good add for the Amerks. Funny how when the Sabres aren't supposed to stink the Amerks might actually get & keep some talent. Yup. I remember grumbles last year that the Amerks being terrible was a bad sign for Buffalo because pipeline. In reality the Amerks will be bad until Buffalo is good enough to force talent to stay there for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Yup. I remember grumbles last year that the Amerks being terrible was a bad sign for Buffalo because pipeline. In reality the Amerks will be bad until Buffalo is good enough to force talent to stay there for awhile. The Toronto Maple Leafs sucked last year. The Toronto Marlies were very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 The Toronto Maple Leafs sucked last year. The Toronto Marlies were very good. Everyone dreams of playing in Toronto, or so Toronto media thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Derek Grant looked really good in last night's game. Granted it is one game in the preseason, but I thought he carried play and made a lot of heady moves around the net. Could be a good find for the Amerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Derek Grant looked really good in last night's game. Granted it is one game in the preseason, but I thought he carried play and made a lot of heady moves around the net. Could be a good find for the Amerks. He might be beating out Cal O'Reilly for 4C/13th forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rakish Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 This is what my model comes up with for 2015. It's really made for valuing 17 year olds, but I think it does an OK job comparing AHL players to NHL players. Granted, previously to being sent to the AHL last season, Grant scored in the 400's and 500's, so his partial season last year may be an outlier, but last season, Grant was really good. I don't have all the Sabres, since I never went back as far as Giota or Moulson. How to read this. Ryan O'Reilly was 2nd best forward in his draft class, with a 2704 raw score. 2 RYAN O'REILLY NHL 2704 KYLE OKPOSO NHL 21013 DEREK GRANT AHL 17552 JACK EICHEL NHL 14406 SAM REINHART NHL 122716 EVANDER KANE NHL 108613 TYLER ENNIS NHL 107133 HUDSON FASCHING NCAA 77038 VICTOR OLOFSSON SHL 71040 GUSTAV POSSLER SHL 692 37 MARCUS FOLIGNO NHL 68745 JUSTIN BAILEY AHL 64510 ALEXANDER NYLANDER OHL 61133 GIORGIO ESTEPHAN WHL 57944 ZEMGUS GIRGENSONS NHL 56858 SEAN MALONE NCAA 528 67 JOHAN LARSSON NHL 48961 ERIC CORNEL OHL 45365 NICHOLAS BAPTISTE AHL 45032 RASMUS ASPLUND SHL 38773 CONNOR HURLEY NCAA 375111 VACLAV KARABACEK QMJHL 226114 CHRISTOPHER BROWN NCAA 201 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Derek Grant looked really good in last night's game. Granted it is one game in the preseason, but I thought he carried play and made a lot of heady moves around the net. Could be a good find for the Amerks. He might be beating out Cal O'Reilly for 4C/13th forward. The write-up in the local paper makes it quite clear that Grant came here because he's a GM TM guy, that GM TM told Grant he would have every chance to make the roster here (the writer characterized it as there being a single forward position available), and that Hot Daniel could not be more pleased with his play to this point. With Grant charting toward a 4C slot, I wonder how that affects the positions played by Larsson and Girgensons. (Pardon any misspellings - I won't have those down for several weeks.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 It opens the trade market up... that's what it does. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) My question is Derek Grant really suited for 4th line duty. He seems like an offensive guy. Which is fine but if he poops on himself in the D zone, I don't think he really fits. More to my point: Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart all fit top 2 center material Larsson, Girgensons fit bottom six center criteria So where does that leave Grant, Cal O'Reilly, or whoever Edited September 28, 2016 by inkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohicksie Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 So where does that leave Grant, Cal O'Reilly, or whoever Injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorner Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) My question is Derek Grant really suited for 4th line duty. He seems like an offensive guy. Which is fine but if he poops on himself in the D zone, I don't think he really fits. More to my point: Eichel, O'Reilly, Reinhart all fit top 2 center material Larsson, Girgensons fit bottom six center criteria So where does that leave Grant, Cal O'Reilly, or whoever Defensively responsible, "shut down" third line of Foligno - Larsson - Gionta. Hybrid 4th line that gets more minutes than usual, of Girgensons - Grant - Bailey. That would be a solid 4th line. Moulson and Deslauriers ride the pine. Edited September 29, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 (edited) My question is Derek Grant really suited for 4th line duty. He seems like an offensive guy. Which is fine but if he poops on himself in the D zone, I don't think he really fits.From what I've read about Grant is that he's a hard worker with size and is defensively responsible.Didn't see anything last night to contradict that. Edited September 29, 2016 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Larsson and Girgensons. (Pardon any misspellings - I won't have those down for several weeks.) I love you for this but it's not like any internet cowboys get irate about this kind of stuff. (get it right a hole!) :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 It really doesn't matter much given that it's a depth/AHL signing, but Murray sure does love dealing with Ottawa and ex-Ottawa players a lot. "He likes his own guys way too much" was a common complaint with Regier, but operating that way is way more common than we think. It's amazing to see how these guys develop their own little network that they wind up dealing with constantly. It probably sheds a lot of light onto the annual question from each fanbase of why we couldn't make that same trade since our trade chips were better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 ^ Liking your guys is fine and well. He just needs to have better guys than other GMs. And he needs to know how to combine the guys he likes into a winning team. And don't over-value your guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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