Taylor Hall traded straight up for Adam Larsson

[LGR4GM]

the ?

[Norcal]

Bizarre

[Sabel79]

Chiarelli is like a virus moving from team to team and destroying them from within. Only logical explanation...

[LGR4GM]

Jake McCabe scored more NHL goals last year than Adam Larsson

[That Aud Smell]

Huge trades like these are absolutely new thread worthy. Burying them in this monstrosity is a shame.

 

I trust we'll get the relevant content merged herein. :P  

[LGR4GM]

Find this gif of 4 other NHL gm's when they heard the news of this trade

 

 

 

 

 

[sabresith]

It just makes me glad to know we have GMTM, because we could have one of these other fools.

[dudacek]

Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.

The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.

 

Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this.

[That Aud Smell]

Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.

The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.

 

I think the trade might seem less odious if the Oilers had found a better version of a 2/3 d-man. Larsson just seems so ... meh.

[LGR4GM]

I think the trade might seem less odious if the Oilers had found a better version of a 2/3 d-man. Larsson just seems so ... meh.

Jake McCabe outscored him in goals last season... JAKE f##king McCabe!

[kas23]

Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.

The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.

 

Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this.

Makes you wonder if we could've gotten him on the cheap though. Surely Pysyk for Hall was discussed, I hope.

[LGR4GM]

Makes you wonder if we could've gotten him on the cheap though. Surely Pysyk for Hall was discussed, I hope.

No. I don't believe this for a second. This was Chiarella targeting a young defenseman that he thought could be better and was worth Taylor Hall. 

[K-9]

Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.

The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.

Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this.

Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm.

 

GO SABRES!!!

[That Aud Smell]

Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm.

 

GO SABRES!!!

 

Whoa. HMMMM indeed.

[Taro T]

Interesting point about the Oiler core. They couldn't give Yakupov away and now Hall fetches little in return. Hmm.

GO SABRES!!!

Which reinforces why I'd've preferred the Sabres draft a D-man @ 8. Elite ones ain't easy to get.

[TrueBlueGED]

I have many thoughts on this trade, and didn't read where I assume everything got buried in the other thread, so I apologize for any repetition.

 

1) Poor McDavid.

 

2) On the one hand, I think this illustrates why Fowler and Shattenkirk didn't get moved (yet?). If it takes Taylor Hall to get Adam Larsson, then yea, we can all bury the "Girgensons + Ennis for Fowler" and related nonsense.

 

3) On the other hand, IT ONLY TOOK ADAM LARSSON TO GET TAYLOR HALL?!?!?!?! WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F?!?!?!?! The most reasonable conclusion I can draw from this is Pete Chiarelli likes Adam Larsson waaaaaaaaaay more than he should. It made sense to trade Hall in search of a #1 defenseman as he probably had the most trade value of their forwards...but not for Adam Larsson.

 

4) Emotion out of the way, should we really be so shocked that the guy who traded Tyler Seguin for enjoying life as a rich and famous athlete may actually be bad at his job? I hope it comes out that Chiarelli turned down Hall + Nurse or something similar for Subban, just so I can laugh some more.

 

5) Building off of #4, this is case in point about why "Why do you think you know better than GM ____?" is such a bad argument.

 

 

Maybe this is why the Oilers never moved their core before.
The return was never there; this was all other GMs were willing to pay.

Also, to those who were arguing a first-pair D is worth more than an elite wing, you will never get better proof than this.

 

I just don't believe this to be the case. I could see this as a trade return for Eberle, but Hall is a legit top-10 winger in the league. No way they couldn't have done better. Hell, it's all over the place that Anaheim is looking for a 1st line LW for Fowler. I think ti's clear that Chiarelli truly valued Larsson. It's baffling.

[TrueBlueGED]

Okay, this is funny:

 

Paul Bissonnette ‏@BizNasty2point0  2h2 hours ago

On the bright side there might be an Oilers fan that thinks they're getting Oliver Ekman-Larsson in that trade.

Also funny:

 

Matt Cane ‏@Cane_Matt  2h2 hours ago

Got to admire a GM like Chiarelli who sees his team lose (the draft lottery) and makes the moves to win (the draft lottery) immediately

[Rasmus_]

It's what they needed to do.  The only way I'm sure Larsson was traded was for Hall.  Eberle and RNH weren't going to cut it, though RNH is more a fit for what they need long term. 

[WildCard]

I have many thoughts on this trade, and didn't read where I assume everything got buried in the other thread, so I apologize for any repetition.

 

1) Poor McDavid.

 

2) On the one hand, I think this illustrates why Fowler and Shattenkirk didn't get moved (yet?). If it takes Taylor Hall to get Adam Larsson, then yea, we can all bury the "Girgensons + Ennis for Fowler" and related nonsense.

 

3) On the other hand, IT ONLY TOOK ADAM LARSSON TO GET TAYLOR HALL?!?!?!?! WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F?!?!?!?! The most reasonable conclusion I can draw from this is Pete Chiarelli likes Adam Larsson waaaaaaaaaay more than he should. It made sense to trade Hall in search of a #1 defenseman as he probably had the most trade value of their forwards...but not for Adam Larsson.

 

4) Emotion out of the way, should we really be so shocked that the guy who traded Tyler Seguin for enjoying life as a rich and famous athlete may actually be bad at his job? I hope it comes out that Chiarelli turned down Hall + Nurse or something similar for Subban, just so I can laugh some more.

 

5) Building off of #4, this is case in point about why "Why do you think you know better than GM ____?" is such a bad argument.

 

 

 

I just don't believe this to be the case. I could see this as a trade return for Eberle, but Hall is a legit top-10 winger in the league. No way they couldn't have done better. Hell, it's all over the place that Anaheim is looking for a 1st line LW for Fowler. I think ti's clear that Chiarelli truly valued Larsson. It's baffling.

1) 

 

2) My first thought as well. That explains the Reinhart nonsense. It also makes the Kulikov deal look a lot better

 

3) I was worried when Chiarelli went to Edmonton. Now? Not so much  :lol:

 

4) Makes you wonder what RNH and Eberle are going to go for

 

5) GM's are morons people too

 

, I wanted Taylor Hall so bad. He was my dream, I would have given anything but our core 4 for him. And then NJ gets him for this ? And now he gets to go from an offensive dynamo to that shithole trap using team that is NJ? Queue the 'See, Hall can't play offense' garbage.

 

First Saad and now Hall, I have to stop wanting players to come here. I'm sorry I didn't want Stamkos, because then we would have been guaranteed to get him

 

Okay, this is funny:

 

Paul Bissonnette ‏@BizNasty2point0  2h2 hours ago

On the bright side there might be an Oilers fan that thinks they're getting Oliver Ekman-Larsson in that trade.

Also funny:

 

Matt Cane ‏@Cane_Matt  2h2 hours ago

Got to admire a GM like Chiarelli who sees his team lose (the draft lottery) and makes the moves to win (the draft lottery) immediately

 

That 2nd one is simply amazing 

 

It's what they needed to do.  The only way I'm sure Larsson was traded was for Hall.  Eberle and RNH weren't going to cut it, though RNH is more a fit for what they need long term. 

They needed to move him, but not for that garbage. Eberle and RNH alone for Larsson straight up would have been a good deal for NJ

Nice article with stats on Larsson-Hall trade

 

http://www.todaysslapshot.com/nhl-west/edmonton-oilers/chiarelli-misses-the-mark-once-again-with-taylor-hall-trade/

And here's the other thing about this trade, Chiarelli really couldn't get Weber or PK for Hall? 15 minutes after the deal was done the PK trade happened. Unreal

[Carmel Corn]

They got their top 4 D-man, now onto getting Lucic (reunion with the GM).

[Huckleberry]

the oilers board on HF is really going berserk :D

[mudberry]

If this was because of future salary cap couldn't Edmonton have gotten a couple of future draft picks or second liners thrown into the deal as well? I don't get this being a straight up trade. 

[PromoTheRobot]

https://twitter.com/McJesus_97/status/748269774832963585

 

Even EA NHL 2016 thought this trade was a joke.

Edited June 29, 2016 by PromoTheRobot

[apuszczalowski]

I would have assumed there were some picks involved in this deal to even it out, but then again it is Edmonton. I hear there are police surrounding the Devils front office ready to charge them with rape and grand theft after what they just did....

[TrueBlueGED]

Really, this is just the universe correcting itself for Puljujarvi falling in their lap.