Ennis value speculation

[Buffaslug]

If you had to trade Ennis for a draft pick straight up, where is it going to be?

 

Do not take into account who the trade partner would be, whether they have cap space/need etc.

 

 

 

I thought he'd be a regular 30 goal scorer by now, I suppose I still hold out hope that he will be.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Buffaslug

[North Buffalo]

Too tough to call because of concussion issue...

[Hoss]

An actual player

[WildCard]

Fowler

[Buffaslug]

An actual player

 

Understood, but player value is subjective and changes on opinion and percieved need. my goal was to convert the value to a more defined currency.

[North Buffalo]

Understood, but player value is subjective and changes on opinion and percieved need. my goal was to convert the value to a more defined currency.

Yeh but dont think a draft pick gets there.

[sabills]

Paul Hamilton this morning on WGR said the Sabres would be lucky to get a 6th for him with the concussion concerns. I think he's underestimating it (I'm pretty sure that Hamilton has no idea of value of players anymore), but I also don't see anyway you get a first for him straight up.

[Buffaslug]

Yeh but dont think a draft pick gets there.

 

True, because obviously depending on players available, perception of buffalo's scouting department etc it could get dicey even on draft value, but being able to see his value converted into a straightforward numerical opinion from each member will show me how many are around my opinion, or if my opinion is way off base and may need to be re-evaluated.

[Rasmus_]

Late second rounder and a project D prospect.  

[qwksndmonster]

I'd guess Ennis's worth is a late first at absolute best. It's probably best to let him regain some of his value this season and flip him at the deadline if he absolutely must be moved.

[dudacek]

I don't trad Ennis unless some (stupid) team offers his pre-injury worth.

Let him rebuild his value first - which I think is a late first.

 

To answer the question at hand, I'd gamble a third on him if I was another GM, but not a second.

[Drunkard]

I think right now he's worth a mid to lower second round pick (45-50ish). He's more valuable to us than he is to anyone else. We'd be better off keeping him and hoping for a rebound season with no concussion issues.

Edited June 24, 2016 by Drunkard

[inkman]

His value is as low as it's ever been. GMTM isn't going to move him.

[deluca67]

I voted a 3rd round. An undersized forward now with concussion concerns? 3rd round is best case scenario. 

[TrueBlueGED]

I think you could get a 2nd for him. Which may as well be nothing, considering what he could have gotten at his height.

[Rasmus_]

I think you could get a 2nd for him. Which may as well be nothing, considering what he could have gotten at his height.

 

Clearing the cap space, and getting to Murray's style, speed, size and skating. 

[darksabre]

I have no idea what Ennis' value is. 

[TrueBlueGED]

Clearing the cap space, and getting to Murray's style, speed, size and skating. 

 

I don't think Murray is as enamored with size and physicality as the narrative says. 

[woods-racer]

Can Ennis be used in the expansion draft?

 

That may be his greatest value.

[SDS]

I voted late second but heart was more towards a third.

[Rasmus_]

I don't think Murray is as enamored with size and physicality as the narrative says. 

 

I believe it's more about having size and two way play more so than pure physicality.  If you look at Kane, Bailey, Fasching, Eichel, Vesey all skate well for their size.  

[Thorner]

I don't think Murray is as enamored with size and physicality as the narrative says. 

 

I agree with this. He values it of course, but other things more. Like hockey sense. 

[IKnowPhysics]

Concussion only clouds his value, but doesn't yet diminish it for me before he's fully evaluated in games.  Before the concussion, Ennis finished top five in Sabres scoring every year he played (mostly top three), including an injury-shortened season.  At full strength, he's a guaranteed top-six guy on any team, and that straight up pick-for-veteran-player value is a first-half-of-first-round pick, 9-14.

 

The obvious question is: does the concussion cloud diminish actual trade value, and if so, how much.  It's a question of risk vs reward for the GM who's trading the pick for Ennis.  It'd be easier for a GM to manage risk in a two-for-two package trade instead of a straight up one-for-one.

 

But unless Ennis has become somehow secretly devalued by Bylsma, the medical staff, or the presence of upcoming young forwards on the roster, I don't think it makes sense to trade one-for-one.  Nobody knows his value and risking what he's worth healthy -an earlier first round pick- would be a large gamble by an opposing GM.

[Norcal]

I think teams value Ennis. I think there's a good chance he gets moved this off season.

[Buffaslug]

Poll results so far are pretty intriguing, much less concise than I had pictured.

 

I personally am hoping to keep him, go for a rebound year and see if he could be the thorn-in-the-side 30 goal scorer that takes advantage of the fact that the opposition is focused on Jack, Ryan, Sam Etc.

 

Oh yeah and we have that Kane guy too.