Cam Fowler Trade Speculation Thread

sabills · July 1, 2016

. @renlavoietva "I wonder if Cam Fowler will be a Buffalo Sabre today"

"They made the choice that Cam Fowler will not play for the Ducks next year"

IDK what it would take, but I'd feel a lot better if we got Fowler here. If we get him and don't have to ship out a D to get him, our backend looks something like:

Fowler-Risto

Kulikov-Bogo

McCabe-Franson

Gorges

That looks ok to me. Ghule can wait another year.

darksabre · July 1, 2016

I guarantee Girgensons is part of anything involving Fowler.

And I do it.

GoPre · July 1, 2016

Fowler for Kane and some draft picks?

Kane and one or both 2nds?

That Aud Smell · July 1, 2016

I agree with the opinion that Kane's value is low to minimal right now. The team is gonna hafta hang onto him.

darksabre · July 1, 2016

I agree with the opinion that Kane's value is low to minimal right now. The team is gonna hafta hang onto him.

The only way we get anything for him is if he's part of a package where an asset coming back for him is very expendable. Maybe a cap heavy contract, or some kind of high risk prospect.

Edited July 1, 2016 by d4rksabre

GoPre · July 1, 2016

I agree with the opinion that Kane's value is low to minimal right now. The team is gonna hafta hang onto him.

Not ashamed to say it. Rather see Girgensons be dealt than Kane. The guy can play. Give him one more chance.

Ross Rhea · July 1, 2016

Kane and one or both 2nds?

Yeah or...

Fowler for Girgensons and a 2nd but GMTM says Kane needs to get taken also or no deal.

Eleven · July 1, 2016

Yeah or...

Fowler for Girgensons and a 2nd but GMTM says Kane needs to get taken also or no deal.

That is insane. That's giving up way, way too much for a 2d pair defenseman. Kane for Fowler straight up is a bad enough idea.

GoPre · July 1, 2016

Yeah or...

Fowler for Girgensons and a 2nd but GMTM says Kane needs to get taken also or no deal.

GMTM would have to have no doubt in Vesey signing w/ Buffalo. And I still wouldn't like it. Too much.

Edited July 1, 2016 by GoPre

darksabre · July 1, 2016

GMTM would have to have no doubt in Vesey signing w/ Buffalo. And I still wouldn't like it. Too much.

I wonder if that almost has to be the first shoe to drop today.

That Aud Smell · July 1, 2016

That is insane. That's giving up way, way too much for a 2d pair defenseman. Kane for Fowler straight up is a bad enough idea.

Huh? I feel like we need a group session on the relative value of top-4 defensemen versus the value of middle-6 forwards.

EDIT: Wait. I see now that the proposal had TWO forwards going in that deal. In that event, Anaheim would need to be sending something of value in return (prospect or young pro).

Edited July 1, 2016 by That Aud Smell

Claude_Verret · July 1, 2016

Yeah Taylor Hall for Larsson just set the market I do believe. Gus and a 2nd doesn't even start a convo.

Edited July 1, 2016 by Claude_Verret

That Aud Smell · July 1, 2016

Yeah Taylor Hall for Larsson just set the market I do believe. Gus and a 2nd doesn't even start a convo.

Well - I mean: It likely ain't enough, but maybe it starts the conversation. Anaheim has to move the guy.

GoPre · July 1, 2016

I wonder if that almost has to be the first shoe to drop today.

We're Buffalo. Nothing surprises me anymore in the city's sports world.

Eleven · July 1, 2016

Huh? I feel like we need a group session on the relative value of top-4 defensemen versus the value of middle-6 forwards.

EDIT: Wait. I see now that the proposal had TWO forwards going in that deal. In that event, Anaheim would need to be sending something of value in return (prospect or young pro).

Evander Kane might play on the second line and might play on the first, but he is not a "middle-six" forward.

Yeah Taylor Hall for Larsson just set the market I do believe. Gus and a 2nd doesn't even start a convo.

If that nonsense set the market, than screw it, no Fowler for me.

GoPre · July 1, 2016

Yeah Taylor Hall for Larsson just set the market I do believe. Gus and a 2nd doesn't even start a convo.

Good portion of the hockey world was stunned by that trade. Really don't think it had a major impact on the market. Most GM's when talking would eventually talk of how bad that trade was.

That Aud Smell · July 1, 2016

Evander Kane might play on the second line and might play on the first, but he is not a "middle-six" forward.

Right, right. At first I thought it was Girgensons + 2nd for Fowler.

Kane's value might be low because of his poor judgment, but adding him to that deal makes it lopsided. The Sabres can't just give the guy away (or at least the team shouldn't).

Lanny · July 1, 2016

Good portion of the hockey world was stunned by that trade. Really don't think it had a major impact on the market. Most GM's when talking would eventually talk of how bad that trade was.

Right, if that's the market a Dman will never be traded again.

TrueBlueGED · July 1, 2016

Evander Kane might play on the second line and might play on the first, but he is not a "middle-six" forward.

I strongly disagree. Evander Kane doesn't belong anywhere near a top line.

darksabre · July 1, 2016

I strongly disagree. Evander Kane doesn't belong anywhere near a top line.

I agree. And it's because he's too one-dimensional.

That Aud Smell · July 1, 2016

I strongly disagree. Evander Kane doesn't belong anywhere near a top line.

Agreed. I saw "second line" and was like "okay."

If Kane plays on your #1 line, your team is not very good.

Thorner · July 1, 2016

Right, right. At first I thought it was Girgensons + 2nd for Fowler.

Kane's value might be low because of his poor judgment, but adding him to that deal makes it lopsided. The Sabres can't just give the guy away (or at least the team shouldn't).

And this, among other reasons, is why I hope his value goes up in the not too distant future, as I believe losing him for nothing would be obviously quite disappointing. If his value doesn't go up by trade deadline 2018, this is probably what happens, no? I thought there was a chance for him to be re-signed, but it certainly doesn't look like that now.

As for where he slots, I think he does have the ability to play on a first line, when his game is firing on all cylinders. But ideally he's on a second line, or even a third. For example, a Kane - Larsson - Gionta 3rd seems not only adequate but intriguing.

Hoss · July 1, 2016

I think this is a deal Murray and Murray may have the parameters of in place but both agreed to wait and see what happens today.

Girgensons and a pick makes a lot of sense. Ennis, a prospect and a pick could make sense.

dudacek · July 1, 2016

Kane's got first line talent but a third line-style game game.

Definitely an unusual player.

Edited July 1, 2016 by dudacek

qwksndmonster · July 1, 2016

Kane's got first line talent but a third line-style game game.

Definitely an unusual player.

I want him with Larsson so bad.

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