GoPre Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Would you do.... Ennis, #8 and #69 for Fowler, #24, and #30? No. That's basically an 8 for Fowler trade. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Would you do.... Ennis, #8 and #69 for Fowler, #24, and #30? No, I would not. I'd prefer to give Ennis a chance to rehabilitate his trade value and move him next year than sell now if his value is so low. Edited June 24, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote
dudacek Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Risto Lindholm and Reilly look real good. Trouba looked great early, not so much this year. Darnell Nurse made the team three years after he was drafted, not anything more than average yet. Derrick Pouliot, same. Matt Dumba, Slater Koekoek Haydn Fleury hasn't made it yet. Neither has Zach Werenski. Or Griffin Reinhart. These are the guys of similar pedigree. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Dreger: It may cost #Habs 9th pick overall to get Fowler. #Sabres are in that mix as well. 8th pick would have to go to #NHLDucks then. Quote
darksabre Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) Overthinking. Murray and Pegula want to win now. Or at least SOON. We were "warned" and we saw it a year ago: don't fall in love with the prospects, the young pros or the draft picks. Truth. And I think trading #8 for an NHL defenceman is exactly the kind of move Murray would make in order to avoid being in a perpetual rebuild. Edited June 24, 2016 by d4rksabre Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Dreger: It may cost #Habs 9th pick overall to get Fowler. #Sabres are in that mix as well. 8th pick would have to go to #NHLDucks then. Screw it, wait a week and offer sheet Lindolm with something absurd. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Screw it, wait a week and offer sheet Lindolm with something absurd. THIS Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Posted June 24, 2016 Montreal is in on Fowler and supposedly Anaheim wants their #9 overall pick. If those guys are willing to do that, I don't think Murray is willing to go over the top at trade #8 for Fowler. Or at least that seems to be the consensus currently. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 THIS I don't think it'd work or anything, but that's me bring petulant over #8. Montreal is in on Fowler and supposedly Anaheim wants their #9 overall pick. If those guys are willing to do that, I don't think Murray is willing to go over the top at trade #8 for Fowler. Or at least that seems to be the consensus currently. I feel like if Murray was going to part with #8 that Cam Fowler would already be a Sabre. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Posted June 24, 2016 I don't think it'd work or anything, but that's me bring petulant over #8. I feel like if Murray was going to part with #8 that Cam Fowler would already be a Sabre. I agree. I feel like if he was close to a deal and then Anaheim came back and said "hey montreal is giving us #9 so better up your offer" Murray would be grab his junk and flip them the bird and walk out. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 And I think trading #8 for an NHL defenceman is exactly the kind of move Murray would make in order to avoid being in a perpetual rebuild. I feel like that may be right. But it's close on this one. I suspect GM TM is struggling here. Screw it, wait a week and offer sheet Lindolm with something absurd. Yeah? ... I feel like if Murray was going to part with #8 that Cam Fowler would already be a Sabre. Hmm - I dunno. The passage of time is a key factor here. He may be waiting for Anaheim to blink. Quote
kas23 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 I want to win now... Not four years from now. Do whatever it takes to bring a cup to Buffalo NOW.. I want to win now...but also 4 years from now. We shouldn't deplete our system of prospects just to win now. Quote
qwksndmonster Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) I feel like if Murray was going to part with #8 that Cam Fowler would already be a Sabre. I disagree. He could not want to part with #8 and still do it. He has until we make the pick tonight to think about it. Edited June 24, 2016 by qwksndmonster Quote
WildCard Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 I'm completely OK with moving #8 and stuff for #24 and Fowler. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 For funsies (moments ago): Chris Nichols @NicholsOnHockey McKenzie: "The Buffalo #Sabres have significant interest in Fowler." #NHLDucks Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Posted June 24, 2016 I think Murray wants Fowler, but he is comfortable making the pick at #8 and not getting Fowler. I think that if Murray waits, either Montreal goes over the top and pays #9 for Fowler or Anaheim blinks at takes the deal I thought they were doing yesterday which was Ennis+Pysyk and a late pick for Fowler. Quote
WildCard Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 What else does Montreal even have to offer? Flynn and a collection of garbage 3rd liners? Quote
Brawndo Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 McKenzie: "It sounds like Cam Fowler of the Anaheim Ducks is being traded, and it's just a matter of where and when." #NHLDucks Confirms that Montreal is extremely interested Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Posted June 24, 2016 What else does Montreal even have to offer? Flynn and a collection of garbage 3rd liners? The 9th overall pick. Noah Juulsen, some other prospects. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 I disagree. He could not want to part with #8 and still do it. He has until we make the pick tonight to think about it. Maybe. We have competition, remember. Quote
WildCard Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 The 9th overall pick. Noah Juulsen, some other prospects.They don't really appear in a position to outbid us Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Posted June 24, 2016 They don't really appear in a position to outbid us If Anaheim wants to be in the top 10 and Murray won't give up #8 they can certainly outbid us. Quote
That Aud Smell Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Maybe. We have competition, remember. I'm sure Anaheim is doing its best to remind GM TM of that. If Anaheim wants to be in the top 10 and Murray won't give up #8 they can certainly outbid us. Yeah. I am reluctant to surrender the 8th, but am gonna be pissed if MTL gets the guy for the 9th. Quote
kas23 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 Truth. And I think trading #8 for an NHL defenceman is exactly the kind of move Murray would make in order to avoid being in a perpetual rebuild. Mortgaging the future by trading away top-10 picks is the exact thing that will place us in a perpetual rebuild. We may be great for the next 4-5 years, but what happens after that when we can't afford our players and the cupboards are bare? Blow it up again by trading off all our overpriced vets? We're going to need a steady stream of quality players. Quote
Rasmus_ Posted June 24, 2016 Report Posted June 24, 2016 What else does Montreal even have to offer? Flynn and a collection of garbage 3rd liners? #9 overall, McCarron, Andrighetto, there are assets for sure. Quote
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