3putt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 ROR's contract does not call for more than what he gives. Ugh....Monahan just signed for 6.3 over 7 and lest we forget Stamkos. I am not knocking ROR, but to get him to sign we had to overpay. Quote
kas23 Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Not shocking. We had his rights for 1.5 months and he didn't take one step into Buffalo. It was all about the big city. No Cup. Not money. Not winning. Not teammates. He just flushed his career. Good for him. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Ugh....Monahan just signed for 6.3 over 7 and lest we forget Stamkos. I am not knocking ROR, but to get him to sign we had to overpay.He scored more points than Toews for 3 million less in fewer games. $7.5 million is perfect market value for first line centers that play elite defense too. He didnt turn down any money here that he would have taken elsewhere. ROR's contract is dead on his actual on ice value. Stamkos taking a discount and still costing a million more per year despite only scoring a few more points this year and playing no defense to speak of doesn't make ROR's contract look bad, it makes it look better. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 I guess he sees Nash's contract coming off in two years so he can cash in. Quote
Ogre Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 We still talking about Drury or Vesey? I was referring to Drury. Sorry, man. I'm floating in and out of consciousness here. Quote
Thorner Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Ugh....Monahan just signed for 6.3 over 7 and lest we forget Stamkos. I am not knocking ROR, but to get him to sign we had to overpay. Ya. I mean, I'd much rather have ROR. Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Ya. I mean, I'd much rather have ROR. Oh hell yes. Quote
3putt Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 He scored more points than Toews for 3 million less in fewer games. $7.5 million is perfect market value for first line centers that play elite defense too. He didnt turn down any money here that he would have taken elsewhere. ROR's contract is dead on his actual on ice value. Stamkos taking a discount and still costing a million more per year despite only scoring a few more points this year and playing no defense to speak of doesn't make ROR's contract look bad, it makes it look better. He scored three less points than Monahan and 4 more than a 19yo rookie on his own team. 7.5 is not market value for a 60 pt center who will be a wing when if we contend. I am glad he is here but to get him we paid the "because Buffalo" premium. Quote
darksabre Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 I must be remembering wrong. I thought we offered him the same deal as nyr but he wanted to play for his favorite childhood team. We didn't offer him anything until we panicked when Briere decided to leave. Drury was spurned by DR and LQ. Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) He scored three less points than Monahan and 4 more than a 19yo rookie on his own team. 7.5 is not market value for a 60 pt center who will be a wing when if we contend. I am glad he is here but to get him we paid the "because Buffalo" premium. Nope. Not for ROR and not for Okposo. We didn't offer him anything until we panicked when Briere decided to leave. Drury was spurned by DR and LQ. DR/LQ spurned them both. Source remains confidential until he retires or dies. Edited August 20, 2016 by Eleven Quote
North Buffalo Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Talking to a couple kids from Boston who are my renters, they're immediate response was WTF and wwhat pus sy. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 (edited) We didn't offer him anything until we panicked when Briere decided to leave. Drury was spurned by DR and LQ. Agree, In order for any major player to come to Buffalo they are going to have to overpay! Same goes for the Bills. Buffalo is not very high on many players wish list in either sport. Edited August 20, 2016 by SabresBillsFan Quote
North Buffalo Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Hope he performs up to the hype, otherwise it's gonna be a rough ride dealing with the NYC media. Good luck Jimmah!! And more proof he and his agent are full of crap.....out of the six teams Buffalo was never a finalist? Makes me wonder if he knew this two months ago. Probably, didnt have guts to say so. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Probably, didnt have guts to say so. You do know he has the same agent as Jack! Quote
Eleven Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Talking to a couple kids from Boston who are my renters, they're immediate response was WTF and wwhat pus sy. Would you please record and post so that we can make fun of their accents? Also, for the first four weeks of NFL, same? Quote
Huckleberry Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 we are all happy, out of all the teams we wanted him to pick, Its the rangers. Talking to a couple kids from Boston who are my renters, they're immediate response was WTF and wwhat pus sy. He didn't pick buffalo, because like I stated earlier. He probably doesn't think he is better than kane, fasching, bailey, ennis, okposo, nylander. With the rangers, JT miller is his competition on second line LW. In Buffalo he would have been considered a middle six guy, with the rangers he can be a top 6 guy easier. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 we are all happy, out of all the teams we wanted him to pick, Its the rangers. He didn't pick buffalo, because like I stated earlier. He probably doesn't think he is better than kane, fasching, bailey, ennis, okposo, nylander. With the rangers, JT miller is his competition on second line LW. In Buffalo he would have been considered a middle six guy, with the rangers he can be a top 6 guy easier. I think he sees Rick Nash's contract will come off the books and that money will be there. Quote
North Buffalo Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Would you please record and post so that we can make fun of their accents? Also, for the first four weeks of NFL, same? Lol, Ill see this weekend going to work on house. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 He scored three less points than Monahan and 4 more than a 19yo rookie on his own team. 7.5 is not market value for a 60 pt center who will be a wing when if we contend. I am glad he is here but to get him we paid the "because Buffalo" premium.Calgary has one offensive line, which contains a PPG dynamic winger. I'd eat my hat if O'Reilly didn't get SUBSTANTIALLY tougher minutes and zone starts. While dragging people like McGinn and Deslauriers and Foligno half the season. Monahan is great, but he's not on ROR's level in any aspect of the game right now, and that wasn't his UFA contract. Don't tell me you think he'll get $7.5 mil or less when that deal ends. His next contact, the proper one for ROR comparisons, will likely be much higher than 7.5. There was no "because buffalo" premium. Stastny got that much money. Quote
Huckleberry Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 I think he sees Rick Nash's contract will come off the books and that money will be there. Yeah that looks good for him, but he'll still have to put up the numbers. If he can't beat JT miller for 2LW and PP time he can forget about getting 4 mill a year even. In the end it was a good move by our GM to take the gamble and we all liked the move. After reading some scouts comments where some say he was in the weakest college division, maybe we could just sign Pirri and fill out a middle six spot that way dunno. going to put my drunk ass to bed, good luck to vesey but we are more than good still :D Quote
North Buffalo Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 maybe we could just sign Pirri and fill out a middle six spot that way dunno.going to put my drunk ass to bed, good luck to vesey but we are more than good still :D Or just stsy put and use some of the young guys like Bailey, Rodriquez, Carrier and Fasching. Quote
bunomatic Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Bah ! He's a BUM ! Still like GMTMs move to get the rights but this has all become a huge waste of time and energy by us fans. Overjoyed he didn't go to the laughs. Not sure if I would consider Buffalo a destination quite yet. Quote
ROC Sabres Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 We didn't offer him anything until we panicked when Briere decided to leave. Drury was spurned by DR and LQ.Been awhile. Thought we went for Drury first and then briere. Quote
bunomatic Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Agree, In order for any major player to come to Buffalo they are going to have to overpay! Same goes for the Bills. Buffalo is not very high on many players wish list in either sport. Agreed. This team has to start winning and winning consistently in order for Buffalo to become a destination. Quote
ROC Sabres Posted August 20, 2016 Report Posted August 20, 2016 Agree, In order for any major player to come to Buffalo they are going to have to overpay! Same goes for the Bills. Buffalo is not very high on many players wish list in either sport. which I find funny. No one wants to play in buffalo but they have no problem living in buffalo when sports aren't involved. Curious if the pegula's are changing that mindset on both NHL and nfl. Quote
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