rakish Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22096-sabres-fantasy-gambling-contest/
LGR4GM Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Jeremy Rutherford @jprutherford 7m7 minutes ago BREAKING: Blues sign Steen to a four-year, $23 million contract extension ($5.75 AAV).
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 I can't believe he wants to stay there
Randall Flagg Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Could have been a lot worse for the Blues.
Hank Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 I can't believe he wants to stay there What's wrong with St Louis? I've been there a few times, great city.
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 What's wrong with St Louis? I've been there a few times, great city.I like the city, I've visited a few times. This is Hitch's last year, and they are in danger of losing a lot of pieces. I'm not even sure they make the playoffs this year Who is their number one center now?
Hank Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 I like the city, I've visited a few times. This is Hitch's last year, and they are in danger of losing a lot of pieces. I'm not even sure they make the playoffs this year Who is their number one center now? Ah, perspective. In that case I agree with you.
LGR4GM Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 I like the city, I've visited a few times. This is Hitch's last year, and they are in danger of losing a lot of pieces. I'm not even sure they make the playoffs this year Who is their number one center now? Paul Stastny?
Randall Flagg Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Fabbri looks to be a very good upcoming center, and Lehtera ain't bad. Definitely not an ideal center situation, but they have three very, very good defensemen and elite wingers.
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Fabbri looks to be a very good upcoming center, and Lehtera ain't bad. Definitely not an ideal center situation, but they have three very, very good defensemen and elite wingers.Very true, but what happens when Steen gets her again and Shattenkirk and Bouwmeester leave? I feel like they're very close to unloading talent Paul Stastny?Yeah thats not good. Dangerously close to old Sabres territory
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Old Sabres had nobody even close to the level of Shattenkirk, Petrangelo, or Tarasenko. But I do agree that their time as one of the best franchises in the west seems to be coming to a close. It's a shame (for them) that they never got to the finals in the past 5 years.
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Old Sabres had nobody even close to the level of Shattenkirk, Petrangelo, or Tarasenko. But I do agree that their time as one of the best franchises in the west seems to be coming to a close. It's a shame (for them) that they never got to the finals in the past 5 years.You're right, but I meant more about building from the wings with no center. Granted Tarasenko > Vanek, but the comparables are there IMO, at least in a broad sense as opposed to a direct example Edited September 23, 2016 by WildCard
LGR4GM Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Old Sabres had nobody even close to the level of Shattenkirk, Petrangelo, or Tarasenko. But I do agree that their time as one of the best franchises in the west seems to be coming to a close. It's a shame (for them) that they never got to the finals in the past 5 years. That's what happens when you don't have good centers. You can't make it too far in the playoffs.
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 That's what happens when you don't have good centers. You can't make it too far in the playoffs.The play at center ice was definitely a factor, but having to compete with Anaheim, LA, and Chicago also didn't help.
Wyldnwoody44 Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/22096-sabres-fantasy-gambling-contest/Thanks I may need some help due to my schedule and my availability, but I wouldn't hate trying to get this going this year
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 The play at center ice was definitely a factor, but having to compete with Anaheim, LA, and Chicago also didn't help.Probably because they all had better centers ;)
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Probably because they all had better centers ;)If the Blues were in the east, I have no doubt they would've seen a finals or two.
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) If the Blues were in the east, I have no doubt they would've seen a finals or two. Probably, but they would likely lose like they have in their own conference. For the same reason. You raise an interesting question though: who was the last team to reach the Cup Finals with average centers? Better yet, who was the last to win it? Edited September 23, 2016 by WildCard
dudacek Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Probably, but they would likely lose like they have in their own conference. For the same reason. You raise an interesting question though: who was the last team to reach the Cup Finals with average centers? Better yet, who was the last to win it? Going in to 2011 people certainly didn't talk about Bergeron as elite.
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) Probably, but they would likely lose like they have in their own conference. For the same reason. You raise an interesting question though: who was the last team to reach the Cup Finals with average centers? Better yet, who was the last to win it? Chicago's centers aren't all that special outside of Toews. The Rags made it to the finals with Stepan as their best center. Edited September 23, 2016 by qwksndmonster
WildCard Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Chicago's centers aren't all that special outside of Toews. The Rags made it to the finals with Stepan as their best center. True with Chicago, but look at how much he does for that team. Same with Kopitar and Bergeron; I don't know if Bergeron was that good in 2011 as dudacek points out. Good call with the Rags. My thing with that is everyone knew they had no shot, and they showed it. So, maybe you ready just need that one elite center? The counterpoint to this of course is, Washington and Tampa.
Thorner Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 True with Chicago, but look at how much he does for that team. Same with Kopitar and Bergeron; I don't know if Bergeron was that good in 2011 as dudacek points out. Good call with the Rags. My thing with that is everyone knew they had no shot, and they showed it. So, maybe you ready just need that one elite center? The counterpoint to this of course is, Washington and Tampa. I think you were closer to the mark originally, generally you need more than one really good centre.
qwksndmonster Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 True with Chicago, but look at how much he does for that team. Same with Kopitar and Bergeron; I don't know if Bergeron was that good in 2011 as dudacek points out. Good call with the Rags. My thing with that is everyone knew they had no shot, and they showed it. So, maybe you ready just need that one elite center? The counterpoint to this of course is, Washington and Tampa. I think you need elite players in general. At least one high end center seems vital, but P. Kane and Tarasenko can carry lines all by themselves with just pretty good centers. Bergeron was that good in 2011. He, Thomas, and Chara carried that team. Krejci is a great #2 center option as well.
dudacek Posted September 23, 2016 Report Posted September 23, 2016 Bergeron was that good. He just wasn't perceived that way.
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