WildCard Posted June 17, 2016 Report Posted June 17, 2016 Silly season is kicking in to high gear. I love it when it's like this. Mid August is when it blows. Although that should be a little better this year with more anticipation for the season, and the World Cup Quote
thewookie1 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Posted June 17, 2016 You tell me NHL Rumors @NHLRumorsDaily 33m33 minutes ago Buffalo would send #8+Foligno+a mid round pick to CBJ for #3. CBJ would be happy to drop to #8 and take Logan Brown. Nothing is done yet!!! If that trade rumor were to be true, as CBus GM, I would make a conditional deal with Buffalo. We will draft who you want at #3. If Logan Brown is available at #8 we will trade you the #3 choice for #8 and that stuff. If its legit, holy cow that'd be a steal. I'd take a guess though that it'd be more like, based on this "rumor" #3 for Foligno, #8, B level prospect, and a 3rd. Either that or we'd have to take Hartnell's contract instead of the B prospect I'd trade a late 3rd for Vesey's rights. Quote
Thorner Posted June 17, 2016 Report Posted June 17, 2016 What wouldn't be a fool's response is sending Nashville a sixth or seventh round pick (hey, Nashville, it's better than nothing) to begin negotiating with Vesey now. Completely agree. Murray should be doing that right now, surprised he hasn't, to be honest. Quote
Taro T Posted June 17, 2016 Report Posted June 17, 2016 First of all I highly doubt he's told anybody except his parents and agent what he wants to do, and would be smart to keep it a secret, assuming he already knows. If I'm him, I pick about 6 or so teams and go visit them in depth come August 15th. Find out what his role would be, where he fits, met the coaches, GM's, etc... Maybe he does like the thought of playing with Eichel, but after some visits he might prefer a different team for other reasons. Second, his production dropped off last season compared to 14-15'. Scored almost 10 fewer goals. He was a 3rd round pick in 2012. He's likely not the long term answer to play on Eichel's wing. Quite possible. But, right now he looks like a real possibility of being a 2nd liner & he costs, literally, nothing. Jack, keep talkin' up the Nickel City this summer. What wouldn't be a fool's response is sending Nashville a sixth or seventh round pick (hey, Nashville, it's better than nothing) to begin negotiating with Vesey now. Depending on the intel Eichel is bringing back to TM. I'd be willing to go to a 5th to be able to lock him up before the draft. Quote
Hoss Posted June 17, 2016 Author Report Posted June 17, 2016 That's like looking at a Ford Pinto and being like "still glad I don't drive a car". Exactly. Having a Twitter account and being active on there makes it so much easier to know what is fake. There are enough of us around here who are well versed in Twitter and other social media outlets. If those of us who are in this category are saying that it's fake then there's a good chance it is. If the account isn't an actual news source or individual then it's probably fake. SOME Twitter "NHL Rumors" pages will act as a aggregate and just tweet out info they steal from others like Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger. Quote
Eleven Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Completely agree. Murray should be doing that right now, surprised he hasn't, to be honest. He might be. Nashville could be considering several proposals. "Hey, Buffalo is offering us a seventh, how about you give us your sixth," for example. If its legit, holy cow that'd be a steal. I'd take a guess though that it'd be more like, based on this "rumor" #3 for Foligno, #8, B level prospect, and a 3rd. Either that or we'd have to take Hartnell's contract instead of the B prospect I'd trade a late 3rd for Vesey's rights. No one is going to give up that much. The Coyotes only gave up a 5th to be able to talk to Goligoski. Quote
ct fab Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Vesey is better than goligoski at his respective positions imho. More importantly Phoenix sent a 5 for exclusive rights That go away 7/1 (actually 6/25 when teams can start talking to UFAs). Vesey's exclusive rights are until 8/15. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Vesey is better than goligoski at his respective positions imho. More importantly Phoenix sent a 5 for exclusive rights That go away 7/1 (actually 6/25 when teams can start talking to UFAs). Vesey's exclusive rights are until 8/15. Maybe Vesey will be better, but he's never put a skate on NHL ice. Let's slow the hype train. Goligoski played on the top pair of the #1 seed in the West. Quote
Brawndo Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Ducks re-sign defenseman Sami Vatanen to a four-year contract extension. Does this make Lindholm or Fowler available? Quote
dudacek Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Ducks re-sign defenseman Sami Vatanen to a four-year contract extension. Does this make Lindholm or Fowler available? Now there's a surprise. Thought he was the most likely of the three to go. Any word on the terms, thinking of Risto. Quote
Hoss Posted June 18, 2016 Author Report Posted June 18, 2016 Vatanen's deal is four years, $19.5 million. $5M in 2016-17, 2017-18, 2018-19. $4.5M in 2019-20. Quote
ct fab Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Goligoski has a very weak playoff if you watched any of the games. He's good at passing but lacks any physicality. He was harassed a bit in the playoffs Quote
Brawndo Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Further details Vatanen deal has partial no-trade in last two years only. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Ducks re-sign defenseman Sami Vatanen to a four-year contract extension. Does this make Lindholm or Fowler available? I still think they find a way to make it work just by moving Stoner and/or Despres. Quote
beerme1 Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 What do you mean? Wouldn't it be smart to send a 7th round pick for negotiating rights? Completely agree. Murray should be doing that right now, surprised he hasn't, to be honest. He might be. Nashville could be considering several proposals. "Hey, Buffalo is offering us a seventh, how about you give us your sixth," for example. Why? We heard he's signing with Buffalo. Quote
Thorner Posted June 18, 2016 Report Posted June 18, 2016 Why? We heard he's signing with Buffalo. Just a rumour, though. If Murray wants to upgrade the offence, he can't just rely on Vesey. One - he's never played an NHL game, and Two - playing the odds it's more likely he doesn't come here. I'd like to sign Vesey but I'll continue to believe it's unlikely until Murray acquires his rights. With the bulk of the offseason hinging on the draft and the days leading up to it, and July 1, I'd be pretty disappointed if our gameplan revolves around August 15th. Quote
inkman Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 Maybe Vesey will be better, but he's never put a skate on NHL ice. Let's slow the hype train. Goligoski played on the top pair of the #1 seed in the West. Thank you Quote
Rasmus_ Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 I still think they find a way to make it work just by moving Stoner and/or Despres. Im interested in Despres as much as I am Fowler. Note that Lindholm would be the optimum talent to acquire, but Despres does a lot on both sides of the puck. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 Im interested in Despres as much as I am Fowler. Note that Lindholm would be the optimum talent to acquire, but Despres does a lot on both sides of the puck. Is your interest in Despres to play with Risto, or for 2nd/3rd pair? Quote
Rasmus_ Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 Is your interest in Despres to play with Risto, or for 2nd/3rd pair? More so on the second pair. I don't see him as a top pairing defensemen. But, when you factor in age, he's signed to a nice term for a while it's appealing. He doesn't fit the need of a PP QB, but he offers versatility and would be an upgrade over McCabe. Despres-Bogosian McCabe-Pysyk/Nelson Looks decent. I'm all for any number of possibilities, but the D has to be altered and upgraded for sure. If Despres is more feasible a target at $$ for the acquisition than Fowler, I'm all about acquiring someone that we can control entering his prime. Quote
TrueBlueGED Posted June 19, 2016 Report Posted June 19, 2016 More so on the second pair. I don't see him as a top pairing defensemen. But, when you factor in age, he's signed to a nice term for a while it's appealing. He doesn't fit the need of a PP QB, but he offers versatility and would be an upgrade over McCabe. Despres-Bogosian McCabe-Pysyk/Nelson Looks decent. I'm all for any number of possibilities, but the D has to be altered and upgraded for sure. If Despres is more feasible a target at $$ for the acquisition than Fowler, I'm all about acquiring someone that we can control entering his prime. Makes sense, and I have some interest in that sort of role. Do you know much about his injuries? I know he struggled to come back from a concussion at some point. Quote
Randall Flagg Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 I still think they find a way to make it work just by moving Stoner and/or Despres. :( Quote
Iron Crotch Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 A few nice tidbits/rumors from Garth: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTHS-CORNER/Chatter-Up/6/77637 He says expect a 7-year, $10 million offer for Stamkos who won't be back in Tampa. Quote
LGR4GM Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 A few nice tidbits/rumors from Garth: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTHS-CORNER/Chatter-Up/6/77637 He says expect a 7-year, $10 million offer for Stamkos who won't be back in Tampa. Toronto or the Rangers... hmmm Quote
Thorner Posted June 20, 2016 Report Posted June 20, 2016 A few nice tidbits/rumors from Garth: http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/GARTHS-CORNER/Chatter-Up/6/77637 He says expect a 7-year, $10 million offer for Stamkos who won't be back in Tampa. I would pay him that, I think. Some thought it would be higher. (And I believe some only wanted to pay him an amount that was lower.) Quote
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