Ristolainen Signed, 6yrs 5.4mil per

[LGR4GM]

Risto will get signed, I think the 2 questions are 3yr deal for x or 8 year deal for y. That's the hold up. It'll get done.

[Hoss]

Barrie gets done at $5.5M for four years

[pi2000]

Barrie gets done at $5.5M for four years

As a measuring stick, that would put Risto in the 4.5-5.0 range for same term.

[dudacek]

As a measuring stick, that would put Risto in the 4.5-5.0 range for same term.

Maybe, if the Sabres aren't buying UFA years. Barrie gave up two UFA years for more now.

I'm not sure if Risto is a UFA in four years or five.

Seems high for a Risto bridge and low for a contract that lets him be a UFA.

[Derrico]

August 9th now.....what are we around 6 weeks from training camp?

[That Aud Smell]

It's weird how long it's gone on.

 

Is it somehow contingent on what Vesey does, and what may flow from that?

[Derrico]

It's weird how long it's gone on.

 

Is it somehow contingent on what Vesey does, and what may flow from that?

I can't see it as Vesey salary won't be substantial so it shouldn't be based on cap implications.  No idea though. 

 

I was surprised when he wasn't signed before July 1st.  Especially considering the comparables.  But whatever.  Then July ends, now we're nearing the middle of August.  The strange thing is there are so many comparables out there that are all similar numbers so I would love to know which side is looking for either longer or shorter term deal.

[ct fab]

Has nothing to do with Vesey - his salary would be $925k.  Now Girgs holdup may be Vesey related

[dudacek]

There have been some notable signings like Vatanen and Ekblad and Barrie.

There are some big names still out there though, like Lindholm and Trouba, who might be his best comparables.

[Randall Flagg]

Monahan and Gaudreau are still waiting too, aren't they?

[LGR4GM]

Monahan and Gaudreau are still waiting too, aren't they?

This is true. 

These deals always end up getting done before the season starts. We'll just let it play out.

[pi2000]

This is true. 

These deals always end up getting done before the season starts. We'll just let it play out.

 

Not gonna happen, but would you consider trading Rasmus for either Gaudreau or Monahan?   

[Randall Flagg]

Not gonna happen, but would you consider trading Rasmus for either Gaudreau or Monahan?

Value-wise, I'd do Gaudreau, but in real life, I wouldn't decimate our defensive potential like that

[LGR4GM]

Not gonna happen, but would you consider trading Rasmus for either Gaudreau or Monahan?

No, neither fill a need for Buffalo.

Value-wise, I'd do Gaudreau, but in real life, I wouldn't decimate our defensive potential like that

I'd go for Monahan. He's a better all around player. But we have ROR so why bother.

[Randall Flagg]

No, neither fill a need for Buffalo.

I'd go for Monahan. He's a better all around player. But we have ROR so why bother.

Gaudreau was top 10 in scoring in his second NHL season. Sean is great, but he's a tier below Gaudreau.

[LGR4GM]

Depends if you want Evander Kane or Jonathan Toews on your team. You're valuing scoring higher then I am. Which is fine, just different

[Randall Flagg]

Depends if you want Evander Kane or Jonathan Toews on your team. You're valuing scoring higher then I am. Which is fine, just different

If by Evander you mean Patrick, then I agree with the comparison you just made :P And yes, I take Kane over Toews 100% of the time. To each his own

[3putt]

I wouldn't trade a valuable asset and create a hole for an asset of less importance based on need.  We would have no one to fill the top pair hole.  Both are good potentially great players, but not worth creating more need on d.  Jmho.

[LGR4GM]

If by Evander you mean Patrick, then I agree with the comparison you just made :P And yes, I take Kane over Toews 100% of the time. To each his own

Sorry, yes I mean Patrick Kane not Evander.

[pi2000]

I wouldn't trade a valuable asset and create a hole for an asset of less importance based on need.  We would have no one to fill the top pair hole.  Both are good potentially great players, but not worth creating more need on d.  Jmho.

 

How about a 3-way deal with Anaheim for Lindholm?

 

to CGY: Ristolainen

to BUF: Lindholm

to ANA: Gaudreau

[Doohicksie]

Why?

 

We already addressed our L/R imbalance.

[LGR4GM]

Why would we even want to trade Ristolainen at this stage?

[Hoss]

If you can turn Risto into Lindholm you do it, but I don't think that's possible.

[3putt]

If you can turn Risto into Lindholm you do it, but I don't think that's possible.

This.

[pi2000]

Why would we even want to trade Ristolainen at this stage?

 

It solves a problem for all 3 teams.

 

CGY needs d-men.

ANA needs young skilled wingers and have too many d-men.  (I suppose they could just go Lindholm for Gaudreau and be done with it, but that wouldn't be any fun for us)

BUF needs a stud D-man of GMTM's choosing, not one of Darcy's picks.