Fasching Signs ELC with Buffalo

[Weave]

Martin St.Louis was an undrafted player.

 

Well I do belive the hype machine should calm down, we shouldn't dismiss Fasching based on where he was drafted.

 

I'm not dismissing him.  I'm not claiming he's a Vanek level talent either.  It seems he's better than a typical 4th rd pick.  I sure hope so.  We gave up an NHL ready player to get him.  We need wingers for our awesome centers.  Hopefully he's up to it.

[LGR4GM]

Let's see what Fasching does in the last few games.

[darksabre]

He's got a good name. I'm expecting results.

[beerme1]

He reminds me of a bigger Thomas Vanek...and not just because he comes from the Gophers.

 

 

Have you seen him at all? I'm not trying to be a smart ass as it comes naturally. I certainly am not trying to hype train him. But in the games that I have seen of him, he shows a dog chasing a bone mentality that Vanek could never possess. At the same time he will never imo be a gifted goal scorer like TV is capable of.

Of course we really know nothing of what he will become but I'm happy to have him and expect him to add a lot to the team for a long time.

[Tondas]

Got to believe part of the agreement to sign was a stint in Buffalo.  9 games in Buffalo at $975K is approximately $100k for the kid.  That would get me to sign on the line which is dotted.

[3putt]

I have seen him play 8 or 9 games and another ten or so on the Bigten network. He is similar in style to Rick Nash though I am not saying he is Rick Nash. Definitely a big body with deceptive skating ability. Good not great shot but scores in close. Downside is he was often just physically bigger than his college competition. I'm anxious to see how he transitions. He can play with talented players and can bang when necessary. I still think he is in Rochester to start next year.

[WildCard]

Would I be wrong in thinking a worse Draisaitl?

[K-9]

It's great we will be able to see Fasching over the last nine games. That said, I am not looking forward to DD relegating him to a fourth line role while he "earns" it behind the vets. Phuck that. Put him next to Jack, throw him to the wolves, and see what he needs to work on while being surrounded by our best talent.

 

Welcome to Buffalo, Hudson.

 

GO SABRES!!!

[thesportsbuff]

It seems pretty much standard procedure for teams to do this with college prospects, so I'm not surprised at all. I saw a few people (on twitter, mostly) worried about burning a year of his ELC in a meaningless season, and it got me thinking... couldn't that actually be a good thing in terms of negotiating for his next contract? Like, barring a dominant performance, won't he have less on his resume when it comes time to negotiate his next contract?

 

He'll get his feet wet this year, but next year will still be a learning/adjustment period as his rookie season. You can't expect the world from a rookie (although we've been spoiled this season). Maybe the final year of his ELC is a "breakout" type of season. So his "resume" might look something like...

 

15-16: 8 games, 2 points

16-17: ~70 games, 20 points

17-18: 82 games, 35 points

 

as opposed to

 

16-17: ~70 games, 20 points

17-18: 82 games, 35 points

18-19: 82 games, 45 points

 

Don't nitpick on the numbers too much please, I don't know what to expect from Fasching so these are really just for the example. Basically I'm saying this year will be too small of a sample size to really use it as leverage during negotiations, so could this end up being the difference between a 3-4 mil bridge deal as opposed to a 6 mil long term deal? Might be something to think about. 

[beerme1]

Would I be wrong in thinking a worse Draisaitl?

 

 

I like this.

[pastajoe]

I just hope Dan doesn't stick him on the 4th line. Let him play with ROR or Jack and let's see how he does with a good center.

[inkman]

He reminds me of a bigger Thomas Vanek...and not just because he comes from the Gophers.

I hope his game only resembles it statistically because there may not have been a 200+ lbs player who playead lighter.

Edited March 22, 2016 by inkman

[beerme1]

So I was wrong yesterday. But I want you to know that, tonight tonight, toniiiight oohhh ohhh  

Welcome Hudson!

[qwksndmonster]

I hope his game only resembles it statistically because there may not have been a 200+ lbs player who playead lighter.

Eh, he was pretty heavy in the crease. Definitely not a checker or a well rounded player by any means, but he was tough.

[dudacek]

He has nowhere near Draisaitl's hands or playmaking ability. Draisaitl has first-line to elite skill. Hudson is middle six.

He does have a similar body and strength on the puck.

Unlike Draisaitl, he will rarely make a pass that isn't safe or obvious — with all the pluses and minuses that implies — or beat someone with his stickhandling. He will hound the puck better and seems faster.

 

I do think he would be a good fit for the type of game Bylsma preaches — safe, disciplined, structured, attack with speed.

 

He's a 20-year-old 4th-rounder who should have been a second-rounder.

He didn't make the top 75 in Hockey News Future Watch this year and barely made it the two previous years.

He's a similar prospect to Bailey, in that he could be a middle-six forward but could just as easily fail entirely.

I like him a lot, but let's keep things in perspective.

[WildCard]

He has nowhere near Draisaitl's hands or playmaking ability. Draisaitl has first-line to elite skill. Hudson is middle six.

He does have a similar body and strength on the puck.

Unlike Draisaitl, he will rarely make a pass that isn't safe or obvious — with all the pluses and minuses that implies — or beat someone with his stickhandling. He will hound the puck better and seems faster.

 

I do think he would be a good fit for the type of game Bylsma preaches — safe, disciplined, structured, attack with speed.

 

He's a 20-year-old 4th-rounder who should have been a second-rounder.

He didn't make the top 75 in Hockey News Future Watch this year and barely made it the two previous years.

He's a similar prospect to Bailey, in that he could be a middle-six forward but could just as easily fail entirely.

I like him a lot, but let's keep things in perspective.

Great post, thanks for that

[bunomatic]

Can someone please post the GWAR gif again?

That's how I feel right now.

 

 

I think the worst case scenario (aside from busting entirely) is a Marcus Foligno/LA KIng depth type — a big body who really works the wall well and is generally a good soldier. The thing he has over Foligno is he seems to be a much better skater: smoother and faster. He played with Larkin in the WJC and kept up just fine. The two were puck pressure and puck possession demons and Fasching caught a lot of guys on the backcheck. He seems to be really good at carrying the puck to the net from the corners and he frequently scores from in tight. He played the PP and worked the first line in college but I'm not sure if the hands will translate to NHL speed. Doesn't hit like Foligno when he's on, though, or have that nasty edge.

Upside is a guy who can slot anywhere in top nine - as part of a shutdown unit, or the cornerman and conscience on an offensive line.

Thanks

[inkman]

In case anyone didn't read this already

 

Prep star's mark goes beyond hockey http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=6145415

 -via ESPN http://es.pn/app

[Rasmus_]

Kane-O'Reilly-Fasching

*UFA*-Eichel-Reinhart

Foligno-Girgensons-Bailey

Deslauriers-Larsson-Gionta (Probably not what Larsson wants)

 

Trade: Tyler Ennis, 

Bought out likely: Matt Moulson

 

That's a healthy top six.  We can see it improved, but I like the looks of it IMO.  Bailey has some raw raw tools.  I was at the Providence Bruins game on Sunday and he skates well, but he still has to be much more consistent.  He has all the tools to be a quality forward.   Definitely excited to see him play against Winnipeg.  A big heavy team. 

Edited March 22, 2016 by TheCerebral1

[Brawndo]

DB said no decision has been made about Fasching first game as of yet

[BetterDays06]

Kane-O'Reilly-Fasching

*UFA*-Eichel-Reinhart

Foligno-Girgensons-Bailey

Deslauriers-Larsson-Gionta (Probably not what Larsson wants)

 

Trade: Tyler Ennis, 

Bought out likely: Matt Moulson

 

That's a healthy top six.  We can see it improved, but I like the looks of it IMO.  Bailey has some raw raw tools.  I was at the Providence Bruins game on Sunday and he skates well, but he still has to be much more consistent.  He has all the tools to be a quality forward.   Definitely excited to see him play against Winnipeg.  A big heavy team. 

Okposo would look great in that UFA spot, better yet Stamkos. I would settle with okposo

[LTS]

Gionta may not have a RW spot next year if Bailey and Fasching take the next steps.

 

The typical NHL move is to have Gionta play out his last year on the contract and have Bailey/Fasching as the 2-way players for roster flexibility.  I would bet that is a much more likely scenario.  In addition, Carrier has been lighting it up in Rochester and will also warrant a look.

[That Aud Smell]

DB said no decision has been made about Fasching first game as of yet

 

This ponderous over-thinking is brought to you by the same man who didn't "give into the moment" and start Eichel against McDavid.

[Huckleberry]

I'm wondering we got 9 games left ?  Don't you burn the first ELC year after only 9 games ?

Or does this not count at the end of the season ?

[LGR4GM]

I'm wondering we got 9 games left ?  Don't you burn the first ELC year after only 9 games ?

Or does this not count at the end of the season ?

It counts the second he plays 1 game I believe. Anyone want to verify via the CBA?