Steven Stamkos stays in Tampa Bay, 8.5mil x 8yrs

[TrueBlueGED]

How about Bryce Paup?

 

Hockey man, hockey!

 

 

Marian Hossa

 

Good one.

 

 

He may be too young lol

 

Nonsense.

[Beer]

Marian Hossa

Jagr ain't too bad either for an old guy UFA (I'm making the assumption he came back to NHL as a UFA and signed with Philly)

[nfreeman]

If we do go after and sign Stamkos I imagine we dangle Evander Kane pretty hard for a left-handed dman.

 

I'm going to respectfully say NFW on this, at least not until his contract year (and probably not then either).

[Brawndo]

I'm going to respectfully say NFW on this, at least not until his contract year (and probably not then either).

If Anaheim called and offered Lindholm for Kane?

[Randall Flagg]

If Anaheim called and offered Lindholm for Kane?

Alllll day but that would never happen

[nfreeman]

If Anaheim called and offered Lindholm for Kane?

 

Well I must admit that is pretty interesting.  I think I'd still say no, and I think GMTM would too, but I could easily be wrong on both counts.

[JJFIVEOH]

I think many tend to undervalue Kane. No way I part with him.

[Randall Flagg]

Lindholm's defense metrics are insane. Like, top 10 in the league, I'm pretty sure. If people want exact numbers, I'm not good at getting those, so ask True or someone. And he's young. He's already a top pairing defenseman. Evander Kane is a 20 goal winger that gets hurt a lot. I think he's worth more on this team than what we could get for him, and I like having him around. I don't think he could get us close to Lindholm.

[Hoss]

Friendly reminder: Just because somebody suggests a player could be moved doesn't mean they are undervalued.

 

I just bought Kane's jersey, FFS. I think the guy is awesome and I want him here long term, but we can't pay forwards 99.9% of the cap. He would be the obvious option of big-money forwards to go. He's got two years left on his contract, so if you think he's not somebody you can retain with the new cap structure you'll have in adding Stamkos then it's better to see what teams will give for a player with some control left.

Edited June 22, 2016 by Hoss

[beerme1]

Hockey man, hockey!

 

 

 

Good one.

 

 

 

Nonsense.

 

 

Paup seems like 50 years ago though.

[Brawndo]

I think many tend to undervalue Kane. No way I part with him.

 

Nope. 

 

See below .

 

Lindholm's defense metrics are insane. Like, top 10 in the league, I'm pretty sure. If people want exact numbers, I'm not good at getting those, so ask True or someone. And he's young. He's already a top pairing defenseman. Evander Kane is a 20 goal winger that gets hurt a lot. I think he's worth more on this team than what we could get for him, and I like having him around. I don't think he could get us close to Lindholm.

Imagine this top pairing 

 

http://public.tableau.com/shared/BPQ2FF5CJ?:display_count=yes

[Thorner]

I'm going to respectfully say NFW on this, at least not until his contract year (and probably not then either).

 

 

I see it as roughly 50/50 that Kane is here beyond his current contract, but I agree it's very unlikely Murray would consider moving him before then.

 

Friendly reminder: Just because somebody suggests a player could be moved doesn't mean they are undervalued.

I just bought Kane's jersey, FFS. I think the guy is awesome and I want him here long term, but we can't pay forwards 99.9% of the cap. He would be the obvious option of big-money forwards to go. He's got two years left on his contract, so if you think he's not somebody you can retain with the new cap structure you'll have in adding Stamkos then it's better to see what teams will give for a player with some control left.

Yup, pretty much. If we sign Stamkos, I'd say there is a 25% chance we keep Kane after his current deal is done. I think we would keep him until then, though, either way.

 

I really like having him on the team, hopefully he sticks around.

[qwksndmonster]

I think Kane is the most obvious casualty when considering our cap structure a few years down the road, but for the next two seasons we desperately need his speed and grit. I'm confident that by the time his contract is up we'll have a prospect or two ready to step into his role.

[WildCard]

Dreger is coming on WGR at 830 to talk Stamkos and trade rumors

[LGR4GM]

Dreger is coming on WGR at 830 to talk Stamkos and trade rumors

:w00t:

[GoPre]

Dreger is coming on WGR at 830 to talk Stamkos and trade rumors

 

Click on listen live?

 

Never mind. I hear it. 

Edited June 22, 2016 by GoPre

[LGR4GM]

Dreger "for me that is a contentious issue. He sees himself as a center. The veteran coaches see him fit better at wing."

 

Dreger when asked about Stamkos wanting to play center and Buffalo being set at center.

 

Dreger "look I applaud this move by the Buffalo Sabres" on Buffalo trading for Jimmy Vesey.

[GoPre]

Dreger "for me that is a contentious issue. He sees himself as a center. The veteran coaches see him fit better at wing."

 

Dreger when asked about Stamkos wanting to play center and Buffalo being set at center.

 

Dreger "look I applaud this move by the Buffalo Sabres" on Buffalo trading for Jimmy Vesey.

 

Called it a bit of a stretch....

 

Hearing conflicting reports/opinions. Just gotta wait and see. Damn I hate the suspense. 

Brent Burns may be interesting. He is a defenseman able to play forward. Not that Buffalo needs him to do that, but an in game switch from defenseman to forward could be beneficial. 

 

And I still do not want the Sabres to pay 12 mill for Stamkos. 

Edited June 22, 2016 by GoPre

[North Buffalo]

Burns was a beast in playoffs and would be an incredible get.

Edited June 22, 2016 by North Buffalo

[TrueBlueGED]

Wait, is there talk Burns is available? What in the world?

[Rasmus_]

LOL Burns being available is almost comical.

[North Buffalo]

LOL Burns being available is almost comical.

True but I didnt bring it up. Didnt think it was more then a pipe dream.

[GoPre]

Wait, is there talk Burns is available? What in the world?

 

Guys on WGR were talking about him and few other defensemen this morning. Talked of how Murray can be aggressive. It'd take a lot to get San Jose to trade him. Just relaying the info. 

[TrueBlueGED]

Guys on WGR were talking about him and few other defensemen this morning. Talked of how Murray can be aggressive. It'd take a lot to get San Jose to trade him. Just relaying the info.

Gotcha. Yea, San Jose isn't trading Burns. They're fully in win now mode and it would make zero sense. Even if they did, the price we'd have to pay would likely make zero sense for us either.

[inkman]

Gotcha. Yea, San Jose isn't trading Burns. They're fully in win now mode and it would make zero sense. Even if they did, the price we'd have to pay would likely make zero sense for us either.

Who started this rumor? It's beyond stupid. If it were somehow true you are looking at Reinhart or Ristolainen and that might not be enough.