Teams that Pickup the Rotten Core

[TrueBlueGED]

Your analysis implies every playoff team plays a regular season game like a game 7 game, when we know they don't.

 

Negative. My analysis merely implies that there are significant similarities to be shared, whereas you seem to be insinuating the playoffs and the regular season are wholly incomparable. The playoffs ratchet up the intensity over a typical regular season game, refs call even fewer penalties, and coaches focus more on gameplanning and adjustments...but it's still the same sport, the same players, and the same coaches. There are differences, but there are more similarities than there are differences, and the underlying fundamentals are the same.

[WildCard]

Negative. My analysis merely implies that there are significant similarities to be shared, whereas you seem to be insinuating the playoffs and the regular season are wholly incomparable. The playoffs ratchet up the intensity over a typical regular season game, refs call even fewer penalties, and coaches focus more on gameplanning and adjustments...but it's still the same sport, the same players, and the same coaches. There are differences, but there are more similarities than there are differences, and the underlying fundamentals are the same.

Sure, the fundamental aspects of the games are the same, but does that still make them comparable? How many #1 seeds, President Trophy winners, win the Cup? How many times do we say here that teams like LA, and Chicago, no matter what seed, are going far into the playoffs because they're 'built' for them? That player x or player y are perfect 'playoff players' because of their style of play? 

 

According to this, only 8 teams have ever won both the Presidents Trophy and the Cup in the same year. Sure, there're slumps, and injuries, but that doesn't account for such a gap as this. It tells me that those teams aren't made for the playoffs, and that the playoffs are an entirely different animal. You can argue that those teams that win the PT beat up on weak teams, but is that true for every #1 seed that doesn't win it? Or, even for the PT itself? I don't believe so; this isn't the NFL scheduling we're talking about here. 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/8-nhl-teams-that-have-won-presidents-trophy-and-stanley-cup-in-same-year/

Edited February 22, 2016 by WildCard

[Drunkard]

Sure, the fundamental aspects of the games are the same, but does that still make them comparable? How many #1 seeds, President Trophy winners, win the Cup? How many times do we say here that teams like LA, and Chicago, no matter what seed, are going far into the playoffs because they're 'built' for them? That player x or player y are perfect 'playoff players' because of their style of play? 

 

According to this, only 8 teams have ever won both the Presidents Trophy and the Cup in the same year. Sure, there're slumps, and injuries, but that doesn't account for such a gap as this. It tells me that those teams aren't made for the playoffs, and that the playoffs are an entirely different animal. You can argue that those teams that win the PT beat up on weak teams, but is that true for every #1 seed that doesn't win it? Or, even for the PT itself? I don't believe so; this isn't the NFL scheduling we're talking about here. 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/8-nhl-teams-that-have-won-presidents-trophy-and-stanley-cup-in-same-year/

 

I see your bigger point but the President's Trophy and Cup in the same year argument is ridiculous. Only one team wins the President's Trophy every year and 15 teams that didn't win the President's Trophy make the playoffs. No matter how good that top team is the odds are with the field every single time.

[TrueBlueGED]

Sure, the fundamental aspects of the games are the same, but does that still make them comparable? How many #1 seeds, President Trophy winners, win the Cup? How many times do we say here that teams like LA, and Chicago, no matter what seed, are going far into the playoffs because they're 'built' for them? That player x or player y are perfect 'playoff players' because of their style of play? 

 

According to this, only 8 teams have ever won both the Presidents Trophy and the Cup in the same year. Sure, there're slumps, and injuries, but that doesn't account for such a gap as this. It tells me that those teams aren't made for the playoffs, and that the playoffs are an entirely different animal. You can argue that those teams that win the PT beat up on weak teams, but is that true for every #1 seed that doesn't win it? Or, even for the PT itself? I don't believe so; this isn't the NFL scheduling we're talking about here. 

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/04/08/8-nhl-teams-that-have-won-presidents-trophy-and-stanley-cup-in-same-year/

 

Regular season possession stats, goal differential, and a sustainable PDO all translate mighty well to playoff success.