SwampD Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 We got rid of Marrone because he thought beating a Patriots team that wasn't trying in week 17 to get to 9 wins made him Vince Lombardi and tried a power play for a raise for him and his staff. If there's one thing I'm sick of right now, it's Bills fans romanticizing about that damn 9-7 season. Marrone was every bit as freaking mediocre as every other mediocrity we've employed the past 16 years. Are we really forgetting all of the braindead decisions he made in just two years? "We" did not get rid of Marrone. You guys can tell yourselves whatever you need to to get through the day. Enjoy 4-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 You guys can tell yourselves whatever you need to to get through the day. Enjoy 4-12. If Marrone was so damn good, he'd have gotten one of the fourteen vacant coaching jobs over the last two years. Go ahead and believe what you want to maximize your misery with the current team/regime, but Marrone was not a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Exterminate the virus. Hire / draft whomever. I'll double down on your idea: change the team name and look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 If Marrone was so damn good, he'd have gotten one of the fourteen vacant coaching jobs over the last two years. Go ahead and believe what you want to maximize your misery with the current team/regime, but Marrone was not a good coach.is he better than Rex? I don't know either. Could he have gotten better? I guess we'll never know because he didn't smile enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 I'll double down on your idea: change the team name and look Not a bad idea. How about the Bisons sporting blue and gold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 is he better than Rex? I don't know either. Could he have gotten better? I guess we'll never know because he didn't smile enough. Again, he opted out of his contract because he couldn't get a raise. He didn't get a raise because his performance didn't dictate he deserved one, not because he didn't smile enough. But sure, keep going with whatever makes the team look worse regardless of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Here's what to do with the Bills. Fire everyone. I do mean everyone. Russ Brandon? Gone. The guy who takes tickets at the game? Gone. Waterboy? Gone Eliminate every trace of the virus. I don't care if it's a part-time beer salesman. Gone. EDIT: Sorry, forgot. This goes to the players, too. All gone. Operate as an expansion team for five years. The team would be better than it will be on its current path. Jeez, I got excoriated for much less: calling for the chrome dome pointer to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Not a bad idea. How about the Bisons sporting blue and gold? They wouldn't be able to steal the Bisons name, but I fully support adopted blue and gold. The original four finalists for the team name were Blue Devils (no), Bullets (no), Bills and Nickels. I don't think any of those are good enough for today (Nickels would've probably been one of those names everybody just got used to and liked in time). Buffalo Lights (Buffalo is the City of Lights) Buffalo Expos (Pan-Am Exposition reference) Buffalo Wings (mmmmm) None of those are good. I've got nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 Again, he opted out of his contract because he couldn't get a raise. He didn't get a raise because his performance didn't dictate he deserved one, not because he didn't smile enough. But sure, keep going with whatever makes the team look worse regardless of truth.This is bs. When did he ask for a raise? There were more than enough rumors that he was forced to leave because, "he seamed miserable". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 (edited) This is bs. When did he ask for a raise? There were more than enough rumors that he was forced to leave because, "he seamed miserable".All that stuff was after the fact spin to make it look better for the organization that the coach walked away. There's nothing credible to suggest he was somehow forced to opt out of his own contract for being less jolly than Santa. Edit: I believe it was Tim Graham who reported the raise thing. For as big of a douche as he is on Twitter, he's pretty plugged in to the Bills. Edited September 18, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 All that stuff was after the fact spin to make it look better for the organization that the coach walked away. There's nothing credible to suggest he was somehow forced to opt out of his own contract for being less jolly than Santa. Edit: I believe it was Tim Graham who reported the raise thing. For as big of a douche as he is on Twitter, he's pretty plugged in to the Bills. Fine. I'll concede that point. It doesn't change my feelings one bit. There has to be a reason why the last three coaches who had a winning record with the Bills chose not to return,... I mean, there are only so many of those jobs, right, and there are people line up to jump at the opportunity to take them, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 They wouldn't be able to steal the Bisons name, but I fully support adopted blue and gold. The original four finalists for the team name were Blue Devils (no), Bullets (no), Bills and Nickels. I don't think any of those are good enough for today (Nickels would've probably been one of those names everybody just got used to and liked in time). Buffalo Lights (Buffalo is the City of Lights) Buffalo Expos (Pan-Am Exposition reference) Buffalo Wings (mmmmm) None of those are good. I've got nothing. How about a nod to one of the cities big industries back in the day? The Buffalo Cokers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 How about a nod to one of the cities big industries back in the day? The Buffalo Cokers? They'd have to trade for Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogre Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 They'd have to trade for Evander Kane and Zach Bogosian Those two will be playing for the LV Throat Drips by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkMeadow Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 They wouldn't be able to steal the Bisons name, but I fully support adopted blue and gold. The original four finalists for the team name were Blue Devils (no), Bullets (no), Bills and Nickels. I don't think any of those are good enough for today (Nickels would've probably been one of those names everybody just got used to and liked in time). Buffalo Lights (Buffalo is the City of Lights) Buffalo Expos (Pan-Am Exposition reference) Buffalo Wings (mmmmm) None of those are good. I've got nothing. How about the Buffalo Ralphs? As in, "...The Bills make me want to Ralph" OK, I'll go back to lurking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted September 18, 2016 Report Share Posted September 18, 2016 It does. But I think they'll sign Hasselbeck by then. No they won't , they are 2-0, that is the max anyone thought they would have pre - season on a 2 - 2 without brady. They face the bills , and brady is back in game 5. They will go with the 3rd string QB and bluff their way, and if they are 4-0 they can say, hey we are 4 - 0 on our 3rd string. We are that good :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Fine. I'll concede that point. It doesn't change my feelings one bit. There has to be a reason why the last three coaches who had a winning record with the Bills chose not to return,... I mean, there are only so many of those jobs, right, and there are people line up to jump at the opportunity to take them, right? Which last 3? Mularkey, Marrone and who else? Wade? He got canned, innit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Which last 3? Mularkey, Marrone and who else? Wade? He got canned, innit?Nope. Iirc, they wanted him to fire his OC and he wouldn't so he quit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Imagine if Wade hadn't been run out of town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I also think it wasn't Wade's idea to start Rob Johnson over Flutie. Talk about meddling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Nope. Iirc, they wanted him to fire his OC and he wouldn't so he quit. I thought Ralph told him to fire his ST coach -- who had never coached ST -- and Wade refused, so Ralph fired him (and then, IIRC, Ralph tried to get out of paying Wade, and Wade had to threaten to sue before Ralph ended up begrudgingly paying him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I thought Ralph told him to fire his ST coach -- who had never coached ST -- and Wade refused, so Ralph fired him (and then, IIRC, Ralph tried to get out of paying Wade, and Wade had to threaten to sue before Ralph ended up begrudgingly paying him).That sounds right. Does it change what I said? One fluke play away from moving on in the playoffs and non-football people force him out. It's like someone somewhere doesn't want the Bills to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 I thought Ralph told him to fire his ST coach -- who had never coached ST -- and Wade refused, so Ralph fired him (and then, IIRC, Ralph tried to get out of paying Wade, and Wade had to threaten to sue before Ralph ended up begrudgingly paying him). After he fired DeHaven over the home run throw forward, he brought in a buddy to run special teams. The buddy was/is an idiot & when he wouldn't fire him he found himself w/out a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calti Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 Marrone did a good job with the garbage he had to work with. I don't think he can be judged fully unless he had a real QB to work with. Whatsisface had a decent arm but was shockingly unathletic.I mean--Marino and Brady are also unathletic-but this guy took it to another universe. Wade was another unique situation. He was a good coach.Good game planner(before the game).Good teacher.Good at having guys in the right positions on the field. Wade was NOT a good head coach because he could not game manage on the field. He got every damn replay wrong.He wouldn't fire the worst STs coach in the history of football.-Couldn't think well on his feet.--A shame because the 99 SB was winnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted September 19, 2016 Report Share Posted September 19, 2016 That sounds right. Does it change what I said? One fluke play away from moving on in the playoffs and non-football people force him out. It's like someone somewhere doesn't want the Bills to win. I gotta trot this one out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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